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    Senior Member raducucosmin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Dant3 View Post
    Finalul e tare
    Ia flopsu si pixelu neamuleeee! Si baga un Minecraft in VR ca sa fie bine sa nu fie rau, cum zic?!

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    Wow, a fost tare nenea ala. Poate rula pixeli necomprimati, va dati seama? E ca si cand s-ar lauda ca ei folosesc .bmp-uri sau .tif-uri in timp ce altii merg pe .jpg-uri! Eeeh, au incercat si ei o prezentare "ca la Apple", dar nu prea le-a iesit.

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    Cons. Mercedes-Benz djleo666's Avatar

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    Senior Member AndRewqp's Avatar
    ceva interesant din interviul de mai sus:

    Still running a 1080p TV? Then you should forget about buying Xbox Scorpio.
    That’s the message from Xbox boss Phil Spencer. He was asked by Eurogamer about the thinking behind announcing the new Xbox One S only to an hour later reveal a brand new machine, Xbox Scorpio.
    “You should buy [the Xbox One S], because Scorpio is not going to do anything for you,” Spencer said after asking the reviewer what TV he had – in this instance a 1080p set. “Scorpio is designed as a 4K console, and if you don't have a 4K TV, the benefit we've designed for, you're not going to see."
    “Clearly, you can buy Scorpio, and if and when you decide you want to buy a 4K television to take advantage of the increased performance, obviously the console will be ready for you. For us in the industry, it's easy to think that most power is always the thing that wins. If you look at last gen, what won? The Wii won. The Wii sold more than we did on Xbox 360 and the PS3, and it wasn't the most powerful console out there. Price is critically important. Wii was a good price and it had a great experience.
    Scorpio is for the person who's got a 4K television, who's really focused on 4K gaming. It's going to be a premium price over what we're selling this one for, and both of them will exist in the market at the same time. Scorpio is for your 4K gamer. And that's what we designed it for.”
    It was speculated yesterday that while it seems Xbox Scorpio will have a quite significant power advantage over PS4 Neo, that advantage will come at a cost – that literally being the cost, which could be some $100 more than Sony’s new machine.
    pe scurt: NU ai tv 4k, iti iei XO slim, ai tv 4k iti iei scorpio, altfel nu merita diferenta.

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    Nu mai puneti si voi linkuri asa aiurea, ideea e sa avem informatia aici pe forum, puneti link si qutoe cum a facut Andrew mai sus. In felul asta daca link-ul nu mai merge sau dispare, informatia ramane.

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    Member Svart's Avatar
    interviul e foarte mare, nu poti sa il pui aici integral.

  8. #108 SP
    Senior Member Encman's Avatar
    Interesant, vorbeste frumos domnu' Spencer, pentru asta e platit, dar nu pare un "empty suit", da impresia ca vorbeste sincer uneori.

    In sfarsit, nu prea aveam nelamuriri.. dar a mai dat niste "detalii", ce mi-a prins mie "ochiul" a fost asta:
    We went all the way to, we had the spec in front of us, should we ship something that's less than Scorpio this year, but in truth you can't do a true 4K console this year. And I just didn't think anything between what is effectively a 1080p console and the 4K console, like, from a consumer television standpoint there's nothing in the middle. So let's go focus on 4K and next year was the right year to do that.
    Domnu' Spencer a zis el ce-a zis, dar nu stiu cat depinde de ei (M$) si cat depinde de AMD (s-ar putea sa fie totul la mana lor, cat de repede pot livra).
    Totodata nu pot sa nu ma intreb daca nu cumva asta se potriveste si cu patura pe tambal a lui $ony in ceea ce priveste NEO.
    Ce nu am mentionat in posturile anterioare (in continuare cred ca NEO va veni in aceasta toamna, la timp pentru PSVR) nu inteleg cum o versiune (chair si castrata) a lui RX 480X ar putea scoate (conform leaked info) ~4teraflops, cand varianta discrete, fara implementare custom este pe la 5.5teraflops.
    Pe de alta parte cifra asta de 5.5 e mai apropiata de 6teraflops (conform specs Scorpio) dar tot nu e 6. Sa avem cumva o varianta castrata a unui RX 490? (eu tot astept anuntul cu privire la chip-ul asta).
    Nu prea se pupa ceva.. doar daca $ony nu a vrut cumva sa mearga initial pe un RX 470? (nu avem specs insa) pentru acest NEO/refresh, si intre timp M$ a ridicat stacheta Mda, speculatii, oricum, interesant de urmarit.

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    Am incercat sa pun tot interviul, nu ma mai lasa, in viitor o sa fac asa.

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    Se pare ca XBOX ONE S vine cu o surpriza pe care simpaticul Spencer a uitat sa o precizeze sau sunt eu neatent, citez de pe N4G (news for gamers) :
    "Xbox One S will upscale games to 4K"
    Xbox One S will upscale games to a 4K resolution as well as supporting 4K video playback, Xbox marketing exec Aaron Greenberg has confirmed.

    The Xbox One S will play games that are made - like Gears [of War 4], like Scalebound - that are really optimised to take advantage of HDR," he said. "We also will play video content at 4K. We'll upscale anything you have, games, other things that aren't [4K], we'll upscale them to 4K as well. So we're taking advantage of a lot of the great benefits of technology that's happening today, whether it's gaming or video, and at the same time reducing the size of the box as well.

    Articolul intreg: Xbox One S will upscale games to 4K | N4G

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    Admin MonkY's Avatar
    Da man, dar upscale-ul acela il face si un TV 4K, si poate il face chiar mai bine decat consola...

    Eu nu cred ce spune Spencer, cum ca daca nu ai 4K Scorpio nu e pt. tine. Pai nu spunea ca avem extra performanta? Eu nu mai vreau jocuri care sa se instaleze/updateze in ore... Chiar daca nu am 4K, puterea de procesare (CPU, bus, cache) e oricum mai mare, deci ar trebui sa fie totul mai smooth si mai rapid. In plus, sa nu-mi spuna mie ca nu va ajuta un joc care pe Xbox One se chinuie cu vreo 20fps... sa se duca la peste 30 pe Scorpio. Refuz sa cred asta...

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    Member eangel's Avatar
    Spencer zice bine din pct de vedere al vânzărilor. Ia tu anul asta one s, ca apoi la anul când apare scorpio îl vei lua si pe acela 😃. Trebuia cumva să impulsioneze vânzările de one s, chiar folosind psihologia inversa în cazul scorpio

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    Senior Member Mayhem's Avatar
    Stiu ca si TV-urile 4k pot face upscale, eu doar il citam pe individ. Si mie mi se pare dubios, Xbox One S face upscale la 4K dar it's all about them pixels...pana la urma om trai si om vedea ce si cum. Eu personal o sa investesc intr-un Xbox One S pentru ca imi place form factorul.

  14. #114 SP
    Admin MonkY's Avatar
    La naiba, un Xbox One S merita si doar ca player 4K la urma urmei... Jocurile sunt bonus!

  15. #115 SP
    Member eangel's Avatar
    Una peste alta e clara treaba: nu vor fi jocuri exclusive pe scorpio, ce sa nu meargă pe one. Deci: vrei 4k, iei scorpio. E ok 1080, rămâi pe one. Chestia asta mi se pare o mișcare interesanta, ca vor vinde bine jocurile, si in ultima instanța de acolo vine banul, nu din hardware. Deci rămân liniștit cu al meu one :-)

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  16. #116 SP
    Member Svart's Avatar
    Vrea sa vanda inca un an jumatate s-ul, de asta tot da ca nu e diferenta decat pe 4k.

    Acum, ca se tot vorbste despre pret ul S-ului, inteleg ca 300 $ e varianta de 500gb, sunt curios cat va fi cea cu hd-ul de 2TB.

    Iarasi ramane de vazut pe ce segment de pret se va plasa scorpio, poate aici se va face diferenta. pare un pachet hardware destul de scump, si nu stiu daca M$ sunt dispusi sa piarda niste bani. pana atunci va fi clar si ce va face VR-ul celor de la Sony, asa ca mai e timp de pozitionare pe piata.

  17. #117 SP
    CG Editor Dant3's Avatar
    Preturile din UK pentru S conform EuroGamer
    The 2TB Xbox One S launch edition will cost £349, the 1TB edition £299 and the 500GB edition £249.

  18. #118 SP
    Senior Member Einherjar793AD's Avatar
    Speaking in the video (below), Spencer explained that Scorpio is a "6 teraflop gamingSpeaking in the video (below), Spencer explained that Scorpio is a "6 teraflop gaming machine, which will be a great gaming machine for true 4K gaming, giving you a native 4K frame buffer so you can see games in all their beauty.
    "Or," he continued, "if developers want to use those 6 teraflops in other ways they're free to do that." machine, which will be a great gaming machine for true 4K gaming, giving you a native 4K frame buffer so you can see games in all their beauty.
    "Or," he continued, "if developers want to use those 6 teraflops in other ways they're free to do that."

    Cum să spui că daca nu ai tv 4k nu ai nevoie de Scorpio?
    Also, a devenit 6TF machine vad.

    http://www.videogamer.com/news/devel...s_spencer.html

  19. #119 SP
    Cons. Mercedes-Benz djleo666's Avatar
    Eu o vad mult mai simpla treaba. La fel cum pana acum aveau X360 si X1 la preturi diferite, apoi X1 si Elite-ul ala cu SSHD si controllerul ala smecher asa vor si la anul ce vine.

    Doar ca au schimbat un pic reteta deoarece vor/intentionat, sa ia fata lui Sony, care in acest moment se indreapta spre 50 de milioane de console vandute. Si cum reteta Sony de la lansarea PS4 a fost buna (more power / just games), merg si ei in aceasi directie, dar fac un pas mare in fata ajutati de AMD, care cauta sa faca bani cat de mult poate din vanzarea care producatorii de console, ca spre ceilalti e dominat de Intel & nVidia.

    Schema asta merge si la telefoane de minune, an de an vedem telefoane cu mult mai multe nuclee, la frecvente cat mai mari (citisem de 2,4 GHz pe un octacore mobil god dammit...) si 6-8 Gb Ram (god dammit again....). Eu cand ma uit la desktopul meu cu Core Duo si 3 Gb Ram ma bufneste plansul

    Also specificatiile partiale (neconfirmate de Phil cu toate ca a fost intrebat direct in interviu) dau 12 Gb GDDR5 ca memorie standard pe Scorpio. Posibil ajutata de un octa-core cu frecventa mare si noile GPU-uri de la AMD care ar putea avea chiar 60 CU. Asociate cu un SSHD rapid si niste developeri seriosi...ar fi wow! Pretul la lansare nu-l vad mai mic de 599$ pentru Premium console, ba chiar si mai mare. Dar cu siguranta va avea cumparatori!

  20. #120 SP
    Member solaru's Avatar
    Eu as zice ca Scorpio va fi 499$ la lansare, iar S-ul va ajunge in a doua jumatate a lui 2017 la 199$ (var de baza 500-1000Gb).

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