FIFA 20

[razvanrazy]

Nu vrei tu sa lasi atitudinea asta si sa incerci sa-mi explici ca sa inteleg?

Din punctul meu de vedere, dupa cum am zis mai sus, ala nu este delay. De ce, din punctul tau de vedere, este delay?

Ce inseamna delay la tine?

Eu chiar incerc sa port o discutie civilizata

[Se7en Fury]

Ce discuție să porți când ești pe lângă subiect, nu te-a întrebat nimeni de teoria chibritului, te-ai apucat să explici de ce crezi tu că se întâmplă asta deși nu te-a întrebat nimeni, nici nu vreau să știu și nici tu nu știi că nu tu ai scris codul jocului.

Eu și poate alții nu vrem să știm de ce se întâmplă asta, am dat 70 USD pe joc, poate alții au dat 45 USD mă rog, din punctul meu de vedere ca, consumator am plătit niște bani pentru un produs, când dau o comandă mă aștept ca softul în sine să facă cea ce îi cer, nu să facă ce îl duce pe el capul, este singurul joc în care problemele astea tehnice sunt prezente de la an la an.

[omega]

Pe cine certi ? Cine este vinovat ?
Parerea mea este ca vina apartine si consumatorului. Din moment ce an de an sunt prezente aceleasi probleme tehnice. Consumatorul ar putea sa se adapteze sau sa renunte la a mai cumpera jocul. Eu nu am jucat in viata mea F.U.T. (ideea in sine mi se pare o prostie) dar cand am vazut ca este ping-pong 2 ani la rand, nu l-am mai cumparat si a 3 a oara.

LE: Incearca sa joci la dublu cu cineva pe aceeasi consola. In felul asta vei stii clar daca problema este de delay sau este de la EA.

[razvanrazy]

Deci tu basically consideri delay faptul ca jocul nu e bun/are probleme?

Te-a fortat cineva sa-l cumperi?

In demo nu era acelasi “delay”?

Tu poate crezi ca iau aparatea EA sau FIFA, dar mie chiar nu-mi pasa. Eu am renuntat momentan la a juca FIFA 20 pe care am dat bani, tocmai pentru ca l-au stricat dupa ultimul update.

Dar ce zici tu sau ce explica flacaul ala in video, este ceva complet diferit de delay. Alea sunt niste probleme ale jocului.

[Se7en Fury]

Diferența este că băiețașul ăla joacă în Champions cu o echipă de 30k la nivel de Pro și știe ce vb spre deosebire de...

În demo vezi un rahat ca nu are și online, poate te referi la EA Acces și da se mișca mai bine în EA acces.

Și spre deosebire de tine eu nu fac rage îl joc așa cum este fără să fac flame, pierd câștig mă kak în el de joc că nu merită să te stresezi cu jocul ăsta.

Discuția a plecat de la tine când ai scris că l-au stricat după update, nu au stricat nimic, era stricat de când sa lansat.

Problema nu este mecanica jocului, problema este inconsistența lui în modul online.

[077danyel]

Am observat câteodată jucătorii intra într-un fel de mișcare mult mai fina si controlează mingea mult mai bine iar adversarului ii e mult mai greu să îți ia mingea
Stie cineva cum se activează mai exact
Câteodată mi se activa după ce folosea l2r2 apoi un skill alta data la r1 dar nu stiu exact ce trebuie sa fac

Am găsit ceva folositi l2r2 si controlați minge mai bine chiar di oasele se duc mai precis
Eu mai alternez câte o secundă două la l2 sau r2 sa schimb directia (iau degetul)
Merge bine si in aparare tineti pe amândouă va duceți spre adversar apoi luați degetele si apăsați cercul

[Se7en Fury]

L2 îl ți întotdeauna apăsat când faci Tackle, și pase se dau cel mai bine când ți apăsat doar L2, cel puțin cele Trough Ball, cele pe Triunghi le dă cam OP atunci când ți L2 apăsat dar sa ai și culoar.

L2+R2 îți face fast jockey și este bun pentru a bloca culoarele de pasă.

[077danyel]

"Si pasele "
Mai modifică rabla asta de telefon

[Se7en Fury]

Pasele le dai în general normal, numai când ai culoar și vrei să scapi singur L2+Triunghi.

Dacă vrei să faci 1-2 ți apăsat L1 și pleacă singur în atac.

[razvanrazy]

Diferența este că băiețașul ăla joacă în Champions cu o echipă de 30k la nivel de Pro și știe ce vb spre deosebire de...

În demo vezi un rahat ca nu are și online, poate te referi la EA Acces și da se mișca mai bine în EA acces.

Și spre deosebire de tine eu nu fac rage îl joc așa cum este fără să fac flame, pierd câștig mă kak în el de joc că nu merită să te stresezi cu jocul ăsta.

Discuția a plecat de la tine când ai scris că l-au stricat după update, nu au stricat nimic, era stricat de când sa lansat.

Problema nu este mecanica jocului, problema este inconsistența lui în modul online.

Si ce treaba are unde joaca baietasul ala? Nu joaca acelasi joc? Are mai multe cunostiinte despre sistemul din spatele jocului si stie ca delay nu inseamna ce am zis eu, ci faptu ca apesi pe buton si nu-ti ia comanda? Si tu chiar urmaresti oamenii care vorbesc prostiile astea?
De la el ai invatat sa folosesti si cratima?

Delay - Verb. delay, retard, slow, slacken, detain mean to cause to be late or behind in movement or progress. delay implies a holding back, usually by interference, from completion or arrival.

Asta presupune o finalizare, dar intarziata, a actiunii respective. In cazul lui, a apasat pe buton si nu a luat actiunea. Ala NU e delay!

Ce rage fac eu despre joc? Faptul ca am zis ca l-au stricat dupa update, cand de fapt tu consideri ca jocul era stricat de la inceput?
Nu e normal sa consider ce vreau eu, pe banii mei, cat timp am platit produsul respectiv? Asa cum dau de pamant cu alte jocuri sau ridic altele in slavi, o fac pentru ca asa consider eu si este dreptul meu sa am o parere despre ceva anume.

E foarte bine ce consideri tu, pentru tine.

EU consider ca jocul NU era stricat de la inceput. Era FIFA, cu niste diferente fata de 19. Dupa update, l-au adus mult mai aproape de 19 dpdv gameplay, eliminand acel tactical defending si alte cateva lucruri, decat de 20.
Faptul ca tie nu ti-a placut tactical defending si faptul ca toata apararea era pe manual, nu inseamna ca era un lucru rau, inseamna ca nu ai apucat sa te acomodezi cu el

Nu te deranjeaza si noul sistem de free kicks? Nu vrei sa-l schimbe si pe ala inapoi?

De fapt discutia a plecat de la faptul ca eu sunt "limitat" si nu vad ca jocul are "delay" sau ce naiba incerci tu sa-mi bagi pe gat acolo si te ofuschezi cand iti spun ca mie-mi merge asa cum trebe dpdv delay (in adevaratul sens al cuvantului - desi delay mai am si eu in anumite meciuri, de fapt aveam in 16, 17, 18, 19, cand foloseau lag switch sau ce naiba foloseau ca sa incetineasca jocul si sa aibe avantaj).

[Se7en Fury]

Te contrazici singur, totodată spui că nu ai Delay și jocul merge perfect pe de altă parte spui că mai ai câteodată, apoi spui ca nu îl mai poți juca de la ultimul update.

Să înțeleg ce? Că nu știi să îl joci.

[razvanrazy]

Pana la urma imi explici si mie ce inseamna delay?

Nu m-am contrazis deloc. Nu esti tu atent la ce zic.

Am zis ca in 20 nu am delay incontinuu asa cum ziceti voi cativa. Am zis ca aveam in alea vechi din cauza ca trisau alti oameni, iar in 20 cred ca 1 singur meci am prins pe cineva care folosea ceva solutie de lag switch sau cum ii zice, desi din ce stiu, au eliminat asta prin faptul ca daca nu esti activ in joc (daca esti in dashboard sau ceva de genu) te scot din meci si-l pierzi. Iar ca sa folosesti prostia aia, trebuia sa faci niste pasi cu pierdut conexiunea pt cateva secunde. Nu stiu cum functioneaza, nu m-a interesat niciodata.

Dar in perceptia ta, faptul ca eu nu stiu sa joc inseamna ca eu nu stiu ce-i ala delay
Poate ca nu stiu sa joc, nici nu are importanta cum joc eu. Important este cum merge jocul. Iar jocul merge bine dpdv delay.

Daca jocul e praf la alte capitole, nu sunt eu in masura sa judec. Eu doar imi exprim o parere personala.

Poate ai tu delay la TV/monitor sau din cauza conexiunii. Sau daca e doar "delay-ul" de l-a prezentat "idolu adolescentilor sau al tau" sau cine e tipu ala random de pe internet, inseamna ca nu stiti sa folositi termenu corect si rade lumea si cu dosu de voi...

Hai sa revenim la thread

LE: am intrat special si am jucat 2 meciuri in F.U.T. Avea dreptate amicu asta. In aparare e FIFA 19. E mult mai usor. Parca si deposedarile sunt mai usoare. Penibil...

[Se7en Fury]

Joacă jocul o perioadă mai lungă și mai vb după, până atunci vb mult prost și fără rost.

[VictusG]

Joacă jocul o perioadă mai lungă și mai vb după, până atunci vb mult prost și fără rost.

Fii bun

[Mihail]

Pana la urma imi explici si mie ce inseamna delay?

Nu m-am contrazis deloc. Nu esti tu atent la ce zic.

Am zis ca in 20 nu am delay incontinuu asa cum ziceti voi cativa. Am zis ca aveam in alea vechi din cauza ca trisau alti oameni, iar in 20 cred ca 1 singur meci am prins pe cineva care folosea ceva solutie de lag switch sau cum ii zice, desi din ce stiu, au eliminat asta prin faptul ca daca nu esti activ in joc (daca esti in dashboard sau ceva de genu) te scot din meci si-l pierzi. Iar ca sa folosesti prostia aia, trebuia sa faci niste pasi cu pierdut conexiunea pt cateva secunde. Nu stiu cum functioneaza, nu m-a interesat niciodata.

Dar in perceptia ta, faptul ca eu nu stiu sa joc inseamna ca eu nu stiu ce-i ala delay
Poate ca nu stiu sa joc, nici nu are importanta cum joc eu. Important este cum merge jocul. Iar jocul merge bine dpdv delay.

Daca jocul e praf la alte capitole, nu sunt eu in masura sa judec. Eu doar imi exprim o parere personala.

Poate ai tu delay la TV/monitor sau din cauza conexiunii. Sau daca e doar "delay-ul" de l-a prezentat "idolu adolescentilor sau al tau" sau cine e tipu ala random de pe internet, inseamna ca nu stiti sa folositi termenu corect si rade lumea si cu dosu de voi...

Hai sa revenim la thread

LE: am intrat special si am jucat 2 meciuri in F.U.T. Avea dreptate amicu asta. In aparare e FIFA 19. E mult mai usor. Parca si deposedarile sunt mai usoare. Penibil...

Poti raspunde si poti aduce argumente unei discutii fara sa fii arogant si sarcastic. Nu suntem toti prosti, asa cum ne consideri tu.
Ia in considerare faptul ca sunt oameni care joaca fifa mai mult decat tine, sunt buni la acest joc si stiu ce zic si ei.
Faptul ca te bati cu pumnii in piept sa iti explice lumea ce inteleg ei prin delay si dai citate din dex, nu te face mai destept, doar te ingropi in ridicol.
Da, jocul are delay. Orice ai intelege tu prin delay si orice intelegem noi, restul prostilor prin delay. Ca nu vrei tu sa intelegi asta, e treaba ta.
Delay poate fi si faptul ca apesi un buton pe controller iar jocul nu inregistreaza comanda. Delay poate si fi faptul ca adversarului i se misca jucatorii mai cursiv, iar tie parca sunt blocati in namol.
Multa lume este pasionala cand e vorba de fifa, asta nu inseamna ca trebuie sa fii arogant si sa-i privesti de sus.
Iar faza legata de cratima e really low. Ce urmeaza, sa batjocoresti un om doar pentru ca esti mai inalt?
Just my 2 cents.

[razvanrazy]

Dragilor, eu am incheiat subiectul.

Spuneti-i cum vreti voi. Spor la joaca

[paul]

Hey FIFA Fans,

The latest Title Update for FIFA 20 is now available and includes the changes below.

For more details on some of these changes, please follow @EASPORTSFIFA on Twitter for news of a Pitch Notes article for this Title Update.

Gameplay (General):

Made the following changes:

Addressed the following issues:

• In certain formations, when locked to an individual player, such as when playing as any player that isn’t set to ‘Any’ in Pro Clubs, the Central Attacking Midfielder (CAM) would form the defensive line following a set piece, resulting in positional change.
  • The formations affected were 4-1-2-1-2 (2), 4-3-1-2, and 5-2-1-2.
• Improved goalkeeper decision making when rushing outside the box in order to clear or take control of the ball by making the following changes:
  • Improved goalkeeper decision making regarding when to take control of the ball versus clearing it in order to produce more appropriate results.
    • For example, the keeper should be less likely to clear the ball away when they are not under any pressure from the opposing team.
  • Goalkeepers are now more likely to try to clear the ball when rushing outside of the box, when it would be appropriate to do so.
  • Sometimes, goalkeepers were not heading to clear the ball in contested situations, when it would have been beneficial to do so.
• Addressed a rare occurrence of a canceled skill move resulting in unrealistic player acceleration.
• Addressed a specific animation that caused players to sometimes miss the ball when performing a lobbed free kick.
• Players will now be able to perform running fake shots when using the digital pad as your Move Player controls.
• Resolved an issue which was sometimes resulting in the ball going through the inside of the goal post.
  • This was a visual issue only and did not impact goal detection.
• When receiving a crossed ball and then attempting a shot, the shot input was sometimes resulting in an unexpected action, such as a pass or tackle.
• Sometimes, the Shots On Target Match Fact would incorrectly consider situations not originating from a shot.
• Sometimes, the goalkeeper would not attempt to make a save during a Penalty Kick when the ball was too close to them.
• Headers were being considered as an Air Ball for the purpose of the Air Ball Auto Switch setting, even if the ball trajectory was below 8 feet.

When losing possession and transitioning into the Drop Back Defensive Tactic, the defensive team will no longer apply any pressure to the attacking team.

• This change is intended to bring the tactic closer in-line with how it is portrayed on the real life pitch.
• As a result of this change, the offensive player can have more space to use in order to build an attack after winning the ball back.

Strikers set to Come Back On Defense Player Instructions will not join the midfield defensive line if it already consists of the maximum allowed players.

• For 4 defender formations, the maximum capacity of the midfield line is 4.
• For 3 and 5 defender formations, the maximum capacity of the midfield line is 3.

Increased likelihood of ball carrier stumbling after being successfully tackled when the defensive player performs the Standing Tackle action.

• The direction of the stumble is more influenced by the direction the defender tackles from.
• During the stumble, the tackled player is no longer able to take control of the ball.

Reduced effectiveness of first-time shots and volleys from the edge of the box and beyond.

• Increased error for difficult first time shots and all volleys resulting in potentially less accuracy, speed, and spin.
• Increased incoming ball velocity impact on first time shot error calculation.
• Increased impact of vertical ball velocity on volley error calculation.

Slightly lowered the impact of high Attributes on error reduction for difficult regular shots.

• This change only impacts the error reduction that was being applied by Attributes used in shooting situations when they’re between 91 and 99.
• This will result in slightly more error for difficult shots resulting in potentially less accuracy, speed and spin.
• This does not impact finesse or chip shots.

Made the following changes to the Long Shot and Finishing Attributes:

• The Long Shot Attribute had been updated to now impact the results of a shot taken from 65 feet, or further away from the target.
  • The target is the exact location of where the ball is expected to go, determined through a mixture of directional input, and the Shooting Assistance setting.
• The Finishing Attribute impacts shot results from 55 feet, or closer, to the target.
• Shots between 55 and 65 feet from the target will now use a weighted average of the Long Shot and Finishing Attributes when impacting shot results.

Increased the likelihood of shots going off-target when taken from 45 feet, or further, from the target.

• The impact of this change scales upwards between 45 and 55 feet, with the maximum impact capping at 55.
• This means that any shot from 55 feet away, or greater, from the target will be more likely to go off target.

Ground passes and driven ground passes taken from difficult angles will now result in the ball traveling with less velocity.

• This change only affects passes of a certain distance, starting at 40 feet, and scaling upward, with the maximum impact being at 60 feet, which will impact passes at 60 feet and beyond.
• This change affects all ground passes that are performed between 100 to 180 degrees and 260 to 180 degrees, where 0 degrees is the direction the player is facing.
  • The impact of this change scales upwards from 100 to 180 and 260 to 180, with the greatest impact at 140 to 180 degrees and 220 to 180 degrees.
• This change only impacts scenarios where both of the above situations are true.

Allowed players to select the Direct Free Kick camera in more situations.
CPU AI Controlled goalkeepers will not give away the direction of their dive in Penalty Kick situations, when playing on Legendary and Ultimate difficulties.
The aiming reticle for Penalty Kicks now has the same behavior across all types of directional inputs.
Added the ability to perform the VOLTA FOOTBALL celebration for some players in 11v11 matches.

***:

Addressed the following issues:

• Visual issue where a player’s Controller Settings appeared to be locked into the settings required for playing in VOLTA FOOTBALL in situations where you were playing a *** Match after previously playing a VOLTA FOOTBALL match.
  • This was just a visual issue, the player’s normal Controller Settings were still active when playing in ***.
• Visual indication in *** Rivals, related to the guest player information, of which team was playing Home or Away.
• When playing the Swaps House Rule, the Quick Sub option was still appearing in-game despite the mode not supporting substitutions.
• When scrolling through multiple Season Objectives, sometimes the reward image from one Objective would display incorrectly on another Objective.
  • This was a visual issue only.
• Selecting to search on the Transfer Market from the Radial Menu of a Concept Player will no longer pre-populate the search filters with a Position or Max Coin value.
• Chemistry changes from Position Modifier Consumable Items were not properly being reflected in Team
• Chemistry in the Squad Build Challenge screen in some situations until the player logged out and back into ***.
• Desyncs when watching a *** Champions Channel replay in some situations.
• Stability issue when repeatedly scrolling through the search results on the Transfer Market tab of the Squad screen.
• Some FIFA Point options were not properly displaying the appropriate currency symbol.
• Sometimes, when moving duplicate Player Items on the New Items screen between the Transfer List and Keep Items sections, the duplicate Player Item was not being sorted as a duplicate Item, resulting in a server error when you attempted to send that Item to your Club.
• Visuals overlapping on the Rewards screen after completion of some Squad Building Challenges.
• It was possible to initiate a *** Rivals match without claiming the previous competitions rewards, which would result in a server error.
• Resetting the filters on the Club Tab of the Squad Screen was still resulting in those filters being applied if you switched between the Squad and Club tabs again.
• Visual issue during a pack opening for a Loan Player Item where the Loan Icon was displaying before the rest of the Player Item.
• Visual issue on the *** Champions Leaderboards resulting in overlay misalignment.
• Celebration animations displayed on the Season Objective HUB were displaying an incorrect kit.
• The Skill Rating logo was incorrectly displaying next to a player’s Weekly Score on the Rivals HUB.
• PC Only: The E button was not functioning correctly on the Club Tab when Multi-Swap was active.

Career Mode:

Made the following changes:

• When creating a Pro in Player Career, the maximum height can now be set to 6’9”.

Addressed the following issues:

• Unable to skip the pre-match cinematics for some important matches.
• When creating a Pro in Player Career, the black shoes were incorrectly showing as totally black.

Gameplay (VOLTA FOOTBALL):

Made the following changes:

• Removed some Lobbed Flair Pass animations from triggering contextually, they can now only be performed with the Flair Pass action.
• The defending player will now keep an increased distance between the ball carrier and themselves when using Contain or Teammate Contain.
• Added logic to allow more transitions out of blocking animations, specifically when the ball was moving away from the player, or when an unexpected touch occurred.

Addressed the following issues:

• Addressed a rare occurrence of players being unable to recover the ball following a Kick-In.
• Resolved goals sometimes not being correctly attributed to the scorer.
  • This was impacting eliminations in Survival matches in Kick-Off, and Match Facts.

VOLTA FOOTBALL:

Addressed the following issues:

• Stability issue when using the Swap Player functionality in the VOLTA FOOTBALL Shop.
  • This issue had been introduced in the previous Title Update.
• The Finishing Moves section of the Celebration controls has been removed as it was not functional in VOLTA FOOTBALL.
• Corrected the text that displayed in the VOLTA FOOTBALL Skill Games to correctly indicate that completing the Skill Game once will prevent any further attempts to boost your Avatar’s attributes.
• Incorrect player name was sometimes showing after a goal was scored in VOLTA LEAGUE.
• When VOLTA FOOTBALL match creation has been disabled, attempting to start a match in VOLTA LEAGUE will now correctly indicate that the feature is unavailable.
• Referees were sometimes wearing the wrong kit.
• Visual issues after disconnect from a VOLTA FOOTBALL match.

Online Game Modes:

Addressed the following issues:

• When using the 85 Overall setting in Online Friendlies, it was not properly setting the teams and players to 85 Overall.

General:

Made the following changes:

• When selecting a Commentary Name for a created Pro in Player Career and Pro Clubs, we have added the ability to page up and page down through the lists of names.

Addressed the following issues:

• Editing the kit for players through the Customize screen was resulting in the changes to other aspects of the player, such as their position or attributes.
• Take Me There functionality was not working for some modes.
• Repeatedly entering and exiting the Team Management screens in various modes would cause the screen to become visually corrupted.
• Corrected text issue in EA Trax screen.

Visuals:

Made the following changes:

• Added 37 new Star Heads.
  • These will only be available following a server update. Please follow @EASPORTSFIFA on Twitter for updates on when this will be live in-game.
• Updates to multiple kits, balls, stadiums and trophies.
• Adjusted Memphis Depay’s Signature Celebration.

Addressed the following issues:

• Visual issue when playing as a goalkeeper, using the Pro camera, in the Estadio de Vallecas stadium.
• Various issues related to the broadcast overlay packages shown during a match.

Audio:

Addressed the following issues:

• Audio looping in VOLTA FOOTBALL following a penalty being scored during a penalty shootout.
• Incorrect commentary sometimes playing when a goal is scored that clinches a title.
• Incorrect audio playing in some situations after scoring a goal in VOLTA FOOTBALL.
• Incorrect audio playing in some situations after a player scores a goal in their debut.
• Commentary sometimes inaccurately referring to a team losing by a small margin when the score is very lopsided.
• In Career Mode, commentary would sometimes reference the previous season incorrectly.

Thanks to those who’ve provided feedback. Throughout the course of the FIFA 20 season we'll provide you with more information and updates if and when they become available.

The FIFA Team

FIFA 20 Title Update #5 — FIFA Forums

[Dant3]

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[Khufu]

Mai era una buna:

[077danyel]

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Hai la turnee