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  1. #5301 SP
    CG Editor Dant3's Avatar
    Cred ca avem tot dreptul din lume să comparăm jucătorii de fotbal, tu ai părerea ta, eu pe a mea, cred ca de aceea suntem pe un forum, să ne spunem păreri. Mie nu îmi place Bale, ție îți place, trecem mai departe. Ție nu îți place Benitez, eu spun ca e un antrenor bun, mi-a plăcut la Liverpool, deci...Hai să terminăm cu faze de genul, te rog eu să nu compari, samd. Fraților ne spunem părerea, vorbim ca niște spectatori, asta-i bună acum, hahaha

  2. #5302 SP
    Banned Messi2015's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Dant3 View Post
    Depay e super jucător, e un transfer serios, Bale e transfer serios? Pe mine mă lasă rece, bani aruncați pe fereastră. Di Maria e peste Bale de ex
    Depay a facut un meci bun si 2-3 meciuri mai putin bune, ca sa nu zic proaste, ii intrase in cap ca e jucator si incepuse cu floricele.

    Pe de alta parte, Bale e super jucator.

  3. #5303 SP
    CG Editor Dant3's Avatar
    Mie mi-a plăcut și la CM

  4. #5304 SP
    Banned Messi2015's Avatar
    Azi a avut conferinta de presa Gigi Becali. Pareri?

  5. #5305 SP
    Senior Member Cristian2191's Avatar
    Abia a venit la United.

  6. #5306 SP
    \ tudyniuz's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Dant3 View Post
    Cred ca avem tot dreptul din lume să comparăm jucătorii de fotbal, tu ai părerea ta, eu pe a mea, cred ca de aceea suntem pe un forum, să ne spunem păreri. Mie nu îmi place Bale, ție îți place, trecem mai departe. Ție nu îți place Benitez, eu spun ca e un antrenor bun, mi-a plăcut la Liverpool, deci...Hai să terminăm cu faze de genul, te rog eu să nu compari, samd. Fraților ne spunem părerea, vorbim ca niște spectatori, asta-i bună acum, hahaha
    Ai luat-o prea personal din nou. Ziceam doar ca din punctul meu de vedere nu exista comparatii intre cei doi si Depay. Asta inseamna expresia, nu ca ti-as fi zis: Bai Dant3, sa nu il compari cu aia doi ca ne suparam

  7. #5307 SP
    CG Editor Dant3's Avatar
    Tu ai înțeles greșit ca de obicei, văd foarte des pe forum chestia asta. Vine cineva cu o părere, hop cineva sare cu o contradicție. E vorba de gusturi măi oameni buni. Uite un exemplu, mie nu mi-a plăcut ce ai spus aici dar te-am lăsat în pace, am trecut peste, îți respect părerea. Tudy, din păcate câteodată se poate interpreta după bunul plac ceva ce apare scris.
    Quote Originally Posted by tudyniuz View Post
    Au jucat vreodata locurile astea din moment ce spui asta sau doar speculezi? Desi locurile 3-6 din Spania au bugeturi infime fata de pozitiile similare din Anglia, au reusit performante mult mai bune acolo unde conteaza: in Europa.

    La campionatul englez a ramas doar marketing-ul si acum cand realiza lumea ca nu mai e nici pe departe ce a fost, iar echipele din Spania sau Germania fac performante mai bune, au primit ditamai sponsorizarea care va creste bugetele tuturor echipelor. Pe cat de bine poate parea asta in mod initial, e ca un cod de bani intr-un simulator. Nu te descurci? Mai aruncam niste bani in joc ca sa fie totul mai "exciting". Iar in cazul asta, echipele mari vor avea chiar si in cazul de fata mult mai multi bani decat restul si probabil vor depasi celelalte cluburi din Europa. Asta mi se pare in mare masura hilar, pentru ca rezultate nu au si nu au aratat in ultimii ani. E bine pe plan intern, pentru englezi ca se pot mandri ca au cel mai scump campionat, dar fotbalul se strica intr-un mod prea vizibil din cauza asta. Ce cauta cluburi gen Aston Villa sau Stoke cu achizitii de zeci de milioane? Fotbalul din Anglia nu face decat sa creasca si mai mult inflatia si jucatorii devin exagerat de scumpi. In ultimii doi ani trofeele din Europa au ajuns doar in Spania

    Daca Ronaldo, Neymar, Kaka si cativa altii au fost iesiti din comun de special la momentul achizitiei, au "meritat" sumele fabuloase de transferuri. Dar daca Sterling face 50mil, piata deja e dezechilibrata.
    Quote Originally Posted by tudyniuz View Post
    Pe mine ma bufneste rasul. Abia leaga 2 pase si nu stiu sa tina de minge. Sa ai o echipa de top din Europa si acum se chinuie cu o echipa din liga a doua. Si mai mult de atat, Sporting Gijon nu a castigat Liga a doua, a terminat pe locul doi

    Dezastru jocul lui Real, fara pic de fluiditate. Bale ca nr 10? Omu nu e grozav la pase si nu are viziunea lui Isco sau James. Ala e om de banda si atat. Iar Ronaldo e prea izolat.

    A distrus omu ala echipa inca de la primul meci. Inapoi la bucatarie cu el...

  8. #5308 SP
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    Pai atunci ce mai cautam pe forum Dante, daca nu pentru a mai discuta cu unii-altii care au uneori si pareri diferite?

  9. #5309 SP
    CG Editor Dant3's Avatar
    Asta spun și eu, hahahahaha, e clar nu ne înțelegem. Tu ai spus niște chestii despre Bale, eu sunt de acord cu ele. Tu spui ca îl preferi pe Navas, nu De Gea. Eu îl păstram pe Casillas
    Spui ca Bale nu are viziunea lui Isco sau James, eu vin și întreb, e jucător de 100 de milioane? Dpmdv doar doi jucători merită banii ăștia, C Ronaldo și Messi.

  10. #5310 SP
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    Si eu il preferam pe Casillas

    Eu cred ca tu inca nu realizezi preturile absurde la care s-a ajuns. Daca Ronnie si Messi fac 100mil, atunci Bale e la jumate, de acord, dar daca Sterling s-a vandut cu 70mil, atunci Bale e jucator de 100mil prin comparatie.

  11. #5311 SP
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    In other news:

    Official Announcement | Real Madrid CF
    FFollowing yesterday's events in relation to the intended signing of the player David de Gea, Real Madrid wishes to state:

    1.- Manchester United did not open any channel of negotiation over the federative rights of David de Gea until yesterday morning.

    2.- Real Madrid, despite the difficulties entailed in carrying out a deal of these characteristics on the final day of registration, agreed to begin these talks.

    3.- When Manchester United agreed to negotiate yesterday morning, they made it subject to reaching an agreement with Real Madrid's Keylor Navas for the player to join the British club from this season, and stated that they were in contact with the aforementioned player's representatives.

    4.- Real Madrid and Manchester United quickly reached an agreement for the transfers of both players. Following the drawing up of the relevant contractual documentation required, and with the purpose of proceeding with enough time to process both FIFA's Transfer Matching System (TMS) and the registration with the Liga de Fútbol Profesional, Real Madrid sent Manchester United the contracts at 13.39 Spanish time.

    5.- Manchester United sent their remarks regarding the aforementioned contracts eight hours later, at 21.43 Spanish time, including minor modifications. As these modifications were not significant, they were all accepted immediately by Real Madrid, with the intention of being able to register the player on time both via the TMS and with the Liga de Fútbol Profesional.

    6.- Real Madrid, having obtained the signatures of the players De Gea and Keylor Navas, sent the British club the aforementioned signed contracts at 23:32 Spanish time, before waiting to receive the final documents signed by Manchester United.

    7.- Manchester United reached a final agreement with the representatives of Keylor Navas at 23:53 Spanish time, and it is at this point that the contracts were sent to the player to be signed.

    8.- Manchester United entered the details of the David de Gea deal, not those of Keylor Navas, at 00:00 Spanish time, simultaneously sending Real Madrid the signed transfer contracts. Real Madrid received this complete documentation at 00:02 and attempted to access the TMS, but it was now closed.

    9.- At 00:26 Spanish time, FIFA's TMS invited Real Madrid to fill out the details of the player David de Gea, as the period of registration in England remains open until today. Real Madrid, given the possibility of an administrative dispute over the player's transfer, decided to send the contracts to the Liga de Fútbol Profesional, despite the knowledge that the deadline had passed.

    10.- In short, Real Madrid did everything necessary at all times to complete both transfers.
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  12. #5312 SP
    Senior Member Razvan's Avatar
    Cam asa arata afacerea cu Martial:

    Monaco will receive € 50 million guarantee. This will be paid in the amount of € 30 million up front, followed by four payments of € 5 million each year in July. The additional unsecured expenses, totaling another € 30 million. These include € 5 million each time Martial is the top scorer in the Premier League, to a maximum of € 15 million. Another € 5 million will be due if Martial wins Golden Boy. The final € 10m will be paid if Martial won the Balon D'or career in Manchester.
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  13. #5313 SP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messi2015 View Post
    Azi a avut conferinta de presa Gigi Becali. Pareri?
    Actele pe care le-a fluturat ca nebunul au fost anulate prin decizia ICCJ din decembrie 2014. (punct)

  14. #5314 SP
    Senior Member Razvan's Avatar
    A venit si varianta celor de la United in legatura cu De Gea:

    Manchester United notes Real Madrid’s statement on the attempt to sign David De Gea and sell Navas to Manchester United. The Club feels compelled to provide some clarification with the following facts.

    • Manchester United did not seek contact from Real Madrid for the sale of David. David is a key member of our squad and the club’s preference was not to sell. • No offer was received for David until yesterday.

    • At lunchtime yesterday, Real Madrid made its first offer to buy David. A deal was agreed between the clubs, which included Navas being transferred to Old Trafford. The deals were dependent on each other.

    • In the last several hours of the process, with Navas at the Real Madrid training ground, Real Madrid were controlling the documentation processes of David, Navas and Real Madrid. Manchester United was in control only of the documentation of Manchester United.

    • Manchester United sent transfer documents for both players to Real Madrid at 2042 BST. David’s documentation was returned by Real Madrid to Manchester United without the signatory page at 2232 BST.

    • At 22:40 BST, minutes before the deadline, major changes to the documentation came through to Manchester United which immediately put the deals at risk. • Only at 2255 BST were the documents that are needed to cancel David’s contract received by Manchester United from Real Madrid.

    • At this point Navas’ documentation was still not returned by Real Madrid.

    • At 2258 BST, the transfer agreement was sent back by Manchester United, uploaded onto TMS and accepted – all before the deadline.

    • It is our understanding that the deals couldn’t happen because:

    - Real Madrid didn’t upload David’s documents onto TMS in time (Manchester United did)

    - Real Madrid didn’t upload David’s documents to the Spanish league in time, per reports it seems some 28 minutes after the deadline

    • The fact that Manchester United filed the papers on time was acknowledged by the Football Association, who offered to support that claim in any discussions with FIFA. The Club offered this assistance, as well as its own timestamped documents to Real Madrid but they have chosen not to go down this route.

    Manchester United acts appropriately and efficiently in its transfer dealings. The Club is delighted that its fan-favourite double Player of the Year, David de Gea, remains a Manchester United player.

  15. #5315 SP
    Banned Messi2015's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by iUser View Post
    Actele pe care le-a fluturat ca nebunul au fost anulate prin decizia ICCJ din decembrie 2014. (punct)
    Ai citit aceasta decizie a ICCJ? Ca Talpan zice ceva, Becali zice altceva. Eu stiu din presa ca ceva de genul a aparut in motivare, nu in decizie. Motivarea e egala cu zero dpdv juridic.

  16. #5316 SP
    Member iUser's Avatar
    Talpan nu stie sa se exprime cand apare la tv si pierde multa credibilitate prin asta. Da, am citit tot ce este disponibil pe internet pana in acest moment.

  17. #5317 SP
    CG Editor Dant3's Avatar
    Batem azi? Sau le arătăm din nou ce pățim?

  18. #5318 SP
    Senior Member Cristian2191's Avatar
    Trebuie sa batem .
    Eu zic un 2-1 pt noi.

  19. #5319 SP
    CG Editor Dant3's Avatar
    Hai să zic și eu, 1-1 azi și 3-1 cu Grecia

  20. #5320 SP
    Senior Member Cristian2191's Avatar
    Prea mare rivalitatea cu "unGAYria" , trebuie sa ii batem. PCH-ul si SUD-ul sunt acolo , cred ca o sa fie macel .

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