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  1. #1021 SP
    Why so serious ? razvanrazy's Avatar
    Destul de mizerabil ce au facut cu acest nou Switch.

    Il fac putin mai mare, baga un ecran de diagonala mai mare si rezolutie 720p, cu majoritatea jocurilor ruland la lower resolution, boxe mai bune si un stand mai bun, dar si cu LAN cable si...atat...

    Devii se chinuie sa porteze jocurile pe Switch si sa taie cat de mult pot, ca sa ruleze la 540p si barely 30fps, dar nah, vom avea un contrast mai bun.

    Inteleg, nu e totul despre rezolutie si calitatea texturilor/poligoanelor, dar tot mi se pare ca nu asculta deloc de ce vrea lumea si continua in prostia lor.

    Personal, chiar ieri mi-am vandut Switch-ul, dupa ce nu-l mai folosisem de prin Noiembrie, in ideea in care poate-mi voi lua un Pro in toamna/iarna, dar uite ca nu am ce sa iau si nici de ce.

    Also, acel LAN port e destul de clar bagat pentru cloud gaming, deci urmatorul pas e sa anunte xCloud pe Switch.
    Desi daca vine si nu e suportat in Ro, e la fel de inutil...

  2. #1022 SP
    Senior Member dronology's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nintendo of America
    Let's take a closer look at the newly-announced #NintendoSwitch (OLED model) arriving 10/8 in a white set and Neon red/Neon blue set!
    Un thread:

  3. #1023 SP
    Senior Member Espiritus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by razvanrazy View Post
    Devii se chinuie sa porteze jocurile pe Switch si sa taie cat de mult pot, ca sa ruleze la 540p si barely 30fps, dar nah, vom avea un contrast mai bun.

    Inteleg, nu e totul despre rezolutie si calitatea texturilor/poligoanelor, dar tot mi se pare ca nu asculta deloc de ce vrea lumea si continua in prostia lor.
    Din pacate (pentru ca si mie mi-ar placea un Switch mai puternic) nu ai dreptate. "Prostia lor" pana una alta continua sa le aduca cele mai mari profituri din istoria companiei. O perioada si eu am avut impresia ca sunt batuti in cap, insa cifrele de afaceri nu mint. Oamenii mint, companiile mint, cifrele nu au cum, asa ca ei fac foarte bine ce fac cu consola asta si jocurile lor in 540p.

  4. #1024 SP
    Why so serious ? razvanrazy's Avatar

    Clubul Nintendo Switch

    Dap. Asa este. Si lumea cumpara pentru ca este singura consola portabila care chiar merge. Nu pentru ca este cu adevarat buna de ceva.
    Au jocurile lor exclusive care sunt fenomenale dar atat. Si din pacate nu sunt multe si nu sunt pentru toate gusturile.

    Restu vor doar o bucata din profit si d-aia se chinuie sa porteze.

    Am jucat sute de ore pe Switch din 2017 de cand am avut-o. Dar de multe ori am fost nemultumit de hardware si de cum rulau anumite jocuri (gen witcher 3) dau de rezolutie care deranja in handheld (asa cum am jucat, poate, 95% din timp in anii astia).

    Iar acum ce fac? Continua cu asta si vom avea aceleasi 20fps in 540p dar cu contrast mai bun pe OLED. Bleah…

  5. #1025 SP
    Senior Member Espiritus's Avatar
    Ar fi interesant un studiu despre cati oameni tin consola mai mult docked decat portabila, sau un alt indice care sa ne spuna daca se cumpara doar pentru ca e portabila sau pentru jocuri. Mie mi se pare ca jocurile lor acopera doua plaje enorme de gameri pe care niciun alt developer nu ii baga in seama: fetele si copiii. Jucandu-ma Animal Crossing era ceva absolut normal sa fiu singurul dude intr-un grup de discord cu 5 fete, in timp ce am exact o singura prietena care cumpara jocuri precum TLOU, Horizon etc.

    Nintendo nu doar ca se focuzeaza pe piata asta care dupa mine reprezinta cam jumatate din numarul total de gameri, dar si face jocuri excelente in care se simte o atentie la detalii deosebita pe care eu nu am vazut-o la nimeni altcineva in afara de Naughty Dog si Rockstar. In ciuda hardware-ului invechit, poate cineva sa numeasca un open world mai bun decat Breath of the Wild (obiectiv vorbind, ca nici genul meu nu e), in afara de RDR si GTA?

  6. #1026 SP
    Why so serious ? razvanrazy's Avatar

    Clubul Nintendo Switch

    Animal Crossing si pe mine m-a prins cateva luni bune. Intram obsesiv de 2-3 ori pe zi pentru nimicuri. Norocul meu ca au aparut alte jocuri si am reusit sa ma las de el.

    Cat de docking vs handheld, majoritatea persoanelor pe care le stiu, ori au Lite-u, ori au normal dar joaca mostly handheld.
    Mai sunt si cei care joaca docking dar pe monitor, eventual full HD, nu pe TV, iar atunci e un avantaj vs un TV 4K pe care se vede nasol un 720p (stiu ca mi s-a parut horror sa joc Mario+Rabbids asa).

  7. #1027 SP
    Senior Member Xander RO's Avatar
    Culmea, pentru mine anuntul acestui Switch OLED vine cum nu se putea mai prost.
    Spun asta pentru ca eram tentat sa cumpar un Switch acum in Iulie (zilele astea, tatonam oferte) ca sa acopar o perioada absolut moarta pentru mine (Iulie-August, nu am efectiv NIMIC de jucat pana apare Kena pe PS5 pe 24 august).

    In acest context care mi se potrivea ca o manusa, eram 99% pregatit sa ma bucur de Mario si de Zelda acum, nu se putea o perioada mai buna pentru mine.

    Fiind in pragul achizitionarii unui Switch, acum bineinteles ca stau in mare cumpana... sa dau banii acum pe acest Switch clasic existent sau sa stau pana in Octombrie ca sa am un display mai calitativ...
    Bun then again... din octombrie incolo voi fi ocupat cu jocurile de pe consolele 'mari', deci un Switch nu vine deloc bine atunci.

    Fix ca ** a venit pentru mine acest anunt.

  8. #1028 SP
    Member Papillon_'s Avatar
    Astia de la Nintendo sunt niste idioti, in loc sa puna un chipset mai capabil ei imbunatatesc ecranul pentru ce? Ca sa vezi jocurile si mai rau?
    20fps in 540p pe 7inch OLED?

    Au succes pentru ca nu au concurenta, Microsft si Sony nu sunt in stare sa vina cu o alternativa.

  9. #1029 SP
    Senior Member dronology's Avatar
    Tetris® 99 - 22nd MAXIMUS CUP Gameplay Trailer - Nintendo Switch

  10. #1030 SP
    Senior Member sexbobomb91's Avatar
    Unii jurnalisti spun ca tot e posibil sa lanseze Switch PRO-ul dar anul viitor:

  11. #1031 SP
    Senior Member dronology's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nintendo Everything
    In a brief FAQ posted on its website, Nintendo has confirmed that the Joy-Con included with the new Switch OLED will be the same as current controllers. That means any Joy-Con you have now will work with the updated console.

    Also worth mentioning, every Switch dock is compatible with all Switch models. If you want to use the dock that ships with the OLED version with a regular Switch, that will work (and vice versa). However, an update may be required.

    The FAQ also mentions something regarding Nintendo Labo. It states that “there may be differences in game experience with some of the Toy-Con accessories from the Nintendo Labo series, due to differences in console and screen size between Nintendo Switch (OLED model) and Nintendo Switch. There may also be games where the game experience may differ due to the new capabilities of the console, such as the larger screen size.”
    Nintendo confirms Switch OLED Joy-Con are the same as current controllers

  12. #1032 SP
    Senior Member sexbobomb91's Avatar
    Bloomberg, cei care au raportat existenta unui Switch Pro, zic urmatoarele:
    "This new Switch looks more like an interim model than a real upgrade to me. This might just be a dummy upgrade until Breath Of The Wild 2 is ready and the component shortage is over next year.”

  13. #1033 SP
    Senior Member dronology's Avatar
    Ce au lansat acum e o versiune deluxe a NSW. Pentru mine e clar că NSWPRO va ieși pe piață odată cu BOTW2, Splatoon 3, Mario Rabbids 2, noul Donkey Kong, Mario Kart 9 și Mario Odissey 2. Probabil anul viitor vom avea un NSW mai puternic. Nu e nici o grabă pentru Nintendo.

  14. #1034 SP
    Why so serious ? razvanrazy's Avatar
    Parerea mea e ca daca va iesi, nu va iesi pentru jocurile alea.

    Tot ce au aratat pana acum ca gameplay din jocurile care urmeaza sa apara (BOTW2, Mario+Rabbids 2) arata si cu siguranta merge identic pe consola actuala.

  15. #1035 SP
    Senior Member dronology's Avatar
    Clar, jocurile pe care le-am menționat merg pe versiunea actuală de NSW. E doar o tactică de marketing lansarea unei noi generații de console și a unei noi generații de jocuri. Atâta timp cât vânzările actuale nu scad Nintendo nu are nici un motiv să forțeze. Fac lucrurile în ritmul lor și le fac bine.

  16. #1036 SP
    Member Papillon_'s Avatar
    O sa scada precis vanzarile, ce e diferit fata de WII e ca varful l-a atins in anul 4 de la lansare nu in anul 3.

    Nintendo Switch OLED model is a minimal upgrade that won't alter Nintendo's trajectory
    https://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/Matt...trajectory.php

    Pe mine nu ma intereseaza mobilitatea oferita de Switch dar ma gandeam la un moment dat sa imi iau un Switch Pro ca sa inlocuiesc Wii U.
    La ce gluma de hardware au acum prefer mai degraba sa schimb One X-ul cu Series X.

  17. #1037 SP
    Senior Member dronology's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eurogamer
    So, for Nintendo and indeed game developers, the Switch OLED model is very much business as usual, to the point where the platform holder is telling game makers that no new development kits are essential for making games and there are no new technical requirements that require changing standard Switch iconography in-game to accommodate the new model. On top of that, games running on Switch OLED have no idea they are running on anything other than a standard unit - Nintendo's developer documents reveal that there is no way for their games to query the system, to figure out whether they are running on Switch OLED or not. With that said, the firm does recognise the need for developers to test their games on the new screen. With that in mind, a new ADEV development model is being made available to co-exist alongside the existing SDEV and EDEV versions. For reasons undisclosed by the Nintendo, this machine ships with 8GB of onboard memory compared to the 6GB in the other development models and the 4GB of all retail units.

    (...)

    With a new Nvidia chip ruled out, could the existing model have provided any form of improved performance for docked users? Absolutely, but not to a genuinely game-changing degree. Overclocking (or indeed underclocking) the Switch has been a component of the homebrew scene for years now, with system hacks able to boost CPU from its standard 1.02GHz to the full spec 1785MHz, while the docked clock of 768MHz can easily be boosted to 921MHz. On paper it's a 75 percent boost to CPU performance and a 20 percent uplift for the GPU. The 'Mariko' Tegra X1 graphics core can even run at 1.267GHz - a sizeable 65 percent improvement to the Switch spec. However, despite the presence of extra venting on the new dock, it seems unlikely that Nintendo will open up full performance to developers. In theory it is possible, but there's certainly nothing in the SDK to make it happen for game makers. And in truth, based on our overclocking tests, you gain extra stability and a cleaner picture on games that support dynamic resolution scaling, so while there is an improvement, it's not enough to comprehensively solve the docked play problem.

    Of course, the truth is that only a fundamental redesign of the Switch itself can address this - something that does not really make business sense to Nintendo in the here and now, and would only cause headaches to developers in supporting a third performance profile. Any kind of smart upscaling solution capable of making truly low resolution images into something acceptable on a living room display requires new silicon, and while Nvidia DLSS has been mooted as a solution, this technology requires tensor cores baked into the hardware - and these are not present in Tegra X1. DLSS cannot work as a standalone 'add-in' chip in its current iteration, and neither can it be liberally applied to any game - it needs to be plumbed into the game engine.

    And both factors, combined with Nvidia's recent improvements to DLSS, make the technology a better fit for an actual Switch successor based on more recent GeForce architecture. The potential is certainly mouth-watering. DLSS performance mode runs internally at a quarter of output resolution: 720p becomes 1440p, 1080p becomes 4K. The results aren't perfect, but would certainly work well on a TV viewed at range in living room conditions. DLSS ultra performance mode can actually scale 720p to 4K. Yes, there's a quality hit, but it works. DLSS or a technology similar to it is the missing piece of the puzzle for making docked play from a mobile chipset viable, but the reality is that this is next generation stuff. So, is this the actual Switch Pro that has been talked about for months now? Would it still be a Switch Pro - or should we start referring to it as Switch 2 or Super Switch instead?
    Spec analysis: Switch OLED model - new display, old tech

  18. #1038 SP
    Senior Member dronology's Avatar
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  19. #1039 SP
    Manager paul's Avatar
    - raspuns pentru articolul in care se estima un cost de $10 pentru OLED model, deci profit mai mare fata de Standard
    - alt model nu vor lansa in acest an

  20. #1040 SP
    Manager paul's Avatar
    Super NES - July 2021 Game Updates - Nintendo Switch Online:
    Claymates, Jelly Boy, Bombuzal, Super Mario Bros. 3 SP

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