Ok here's the run down on how trade uppercut works with Ryu/Sagat. With Ryu it looks like at least mid screen trade uppercut to Ultra doesn't work at all anymore.(lol) When Ryu trades he does an Alpha 3/Super Turbo style flip in the air and back onto his feet which stalls him just long enough that when he activates the ultra he is pushed too far away and starts the ultra at too late of an interval for it to hit. Trade uppercut with Ryu probably only works if your opponent is in the corner. Which if your opponent is in the corner and you land trade upper to Ultra...you are a god among men. In the corner if they jump up or backwards LP shoryu to Ultra is free any ways.

With Sagat...trade, f+HK to Ultra only works during high air trades. By this I mean you can only land Ultra if Sagat trades while his opponent is still high in the air. If the opponent gets their air normals traded low to the ground you can no longer do Mago style df,d,df+uppercut, f+HK to Ultra.(this is delicious) It now whiffs. So now Sagat has to be smart about trading into Ultra. He can only do it if he notices the opponent doing air normals too high in the air. On deep trades he can only get 1 f+HK and that's it. Can't even get EX tiger shot. (lol)

Watch the last 3 uploaded videos in this channel for video explanation.

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