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Thread: Sony si Panasonic lucreaza la disk-ul optic de 300GB

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    Sony si Panasonic lucreaza la disk-ul optic de 300GB

    Am avut tot felul de zvonuri referitoare la urmatorul format pentru disk-urile optice, zvonuri care au disparut rand pe rand si nu am ramas cu nimic viabil. In mare parte am pune aceasta problema si pe seama faptului ca marii dezvoltatori se indreapta cat mai mult spre storage-ul online, clouding, streaming si alte nebunii. Dar astazi, cei de la Sony si Panasonic au demonstrat ca retail-ul si suportul fizic nu va muri asa repede, semnand un agreement de colaborare pentru dezvoltarea unui mediu optic capabil de 300GB. Mai mult este specificat si un deadline, acesta fiind sfarsitul anului 2015.

    Cu alte cuvinte, in 2-3 ani vom avea cu siguranta un "BluRay" de 300GB, mai mult decat suficient sa acopere chiar si 8K-ul (nu doar 4K). Ba chiar se poate observa ca in comunicatul de presa este scris negru pe alb "recording capacity of at least 300GB", deci ne putem astepta la dimensiuni chiar mai mari. Sau poate in DL sa vorbim de 600GB.

    Sursa: Sony and Panasonic sign basic agreement to jointly develop standard for professional-use next-generation optical discs.
    Comunicatul de presa:
    July 29, 2013
    Sony and Panasonic sign basic agreement to jointly develop standard for professional-use next-generation optical discs

    Sony Corporation
    Panasonic Corporation

    Tokyo, Japan - July 29, 2013 - Sony Corporation (‘Sony’) and Panasonic Corporation (‘Panasonic’) today announced that they have signed a basic agreement with the objective of jointly developing a next-generation standard for professional-use optical discs, with the objective of expanding their archive business for long-term digital data storage. Both companies aim to improve their development efficiency based on the technologies held by each respective company, and will target the development of an optical disc with recording capacity of at least 300GB by the end of 2015. Going forward, Sony and Panasonic will continue to hold discussions regarding the specifications and other items relating to the development of this new standard.

    Optical discs have excellent properties to protect them against the environment, such as dust-resistance and water-resistance, and can also withstand changes in temperature and humidity when stored. They also allow inter-generational compatibility between different formats, ensuring that data can continue to be read even as formats evolve. This makes them a robust medium for long-term storage of content. Both companies have previously developed products based on the Blu-ray™ format, leveraging the strengths of optical discs. However, both Sony and Panasonic recognized that optical discs will need to accommodate much larger volumes of storage in years to come given the expected future growth in the archive market, and responded by formulating this agreement.

    Sony previously commercialized a file-based optical disc archive system in September, 2012. Based on optical disc technology that Sony cultivated for its XDCAM series of professional broadcasting products, this system houses twelve optical discs within a compact cartridge as a single, high-capacity storage solution. Each disc within the cartridge holds 25GB capacity, offering a total range of storage capacities from 300GB to 1.5TB.

    In July this year, Panasonic launched its ‘LB-DM9 series’ of optical disc storage devices. This series uses a dedicated magazine of just 20.8mm thickness to house twelve 100GB optical discs. A maximum of 90 magazines can be stored, providing a total storage capacity of 180TB. In addition, Panasonic adopted a newly-developed changer system together with RAID technology to offer rapid data transfer performance of up to 216MB/s, while also ensuring high reliability by protecting data from unforeseen faults.

    In recent years, there has been an increasing need for archive capabilities, not only from video production industries, such as motion pictures and broadcasting, but also from cloud data centers that handle increasingly large volumes of data following the evolution in network services. Both Sony and Panasonic have a proven track record in developing Blu-ray Disc™ format technologies, and by actively promoting the adoption of a new standard for next-generation high-capacity optical discs, they intend to offer solutions that preserve valuable data for future generations.
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    i love Japan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florin85 View Post
    i love Japan
    Japan loves you too!

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    Cand se ajunge la 1TB pe un disk, o sa-mi pice moaca. Pana atunci insa, am o singura chestie de comentat, Sony a impins si CD-ul, si DVD-ul si Blu-Ray-ul. In momentul asta Samsung sunt gigantii prin comparatie, si rareori vin ei cu ceva nou. De cele mai multe ori preiau tehnologii sau construiesc pentru altii, dar nu pentru ei. Am impresia ca cei seriosi sunt Sony si Panasonic iar Samsung e doar pe val. Ma rog, sa nu-mi sara lumea in cap, dar mereu am avut impresia asta.

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    Lasa ca si fara Samsung e complicat pe piata chip-urilor (a memoriilor in special) sau a panourilor lcd. Japonezii au fost dintotdeauna buni la inovatii si excelenta insa coreenii si chinezii sunt singurii capabili sa puna ideile lor in practica si in productie de masa.

    Ma uitam deunazi ca totusi cei de la Samsung sunt primii care lanseaza cel mai rapid nand flash pt. mobile (eMMC 5.0) care ajung la 400MB/s (unii dintre noi inca mai au in desktop PC HDD-uri care nu ating nici 100MB/s). Acum cateva zile au anuntat module LDDR3 de 3GB... Fara ei, ar fi al naibii de complicat. Ma uit la ce belele a avut Apple dupa ce a renuntat la Samsung pt. panouri... Au produs LG su AU tone de panouri cu defecte.

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    Cred ca totusi single layer-ul va fi 150 GB si DL-ul va fi 300 GB. De ce spun asta? De fiecare data noul standard a fost exact de 6 ori mai mare ca si vechiul standard.

    CD=0.7 GB
    DVD (single layer)=4.2 GB (adica 6x0.7 GB)
    BluRay (single layer)=25 GB (adica 6x4.2 GB)

    Deci 6x25 GB=150 GB.

    Era frumos daca standardul asta venea cu PS4, asa cum PS1 a adus CD, PS2 a adus DVD si PS3 a adus BluRay. Dar asta e deja alta discutie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaverX View Post
    Cred ca totusi single layer-ul va fi 150 GB si DL-ul va fi 300 GB. De ce spun asta? De fiecare data noul standard a fost exact de 6 ori mai mare ca si vechiul standard.
    Daca citeai stirea complet (impreuna cu comunicatul de presa) vedeai ca Panasonic deja a lansat solutia de backup LB-DM9 care foloseste un nou standard de disk-uri optice de 100GB (12 bucati per block mergand la 1.2TB). 100GB nu se incadreaza in calculul de care vorbesti (6 x 25)... si sincer ma indoiesc ca ei deja avand 100GB per disk se vor chinui mai bine de 2 ani ca sa faca doar 150GB per layer. In plus, daca 2 mari nebuni spun "cel putin 300GB", nu cred ca o fac degeaba. Dar, vom trai si vom vedea...

    Mai multe detalii despre LB-DM9:
    Google Translate - Panasonic Data archiver LB-DM9 series
    Google Translate - Panasonic Press release

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    Am citit, insa eu am spus "noul standard". Discuri optice au mai aparut de la BluRay (inclusiv HDDVD), insa nu au rezistat, de unele s-a mai auzit, altele poate nici n-au fost produse vreodata. Si noul standard cred ca se va impune de abia prin 2017, chiar daca vor aparea discuri si device-uri mai rapid.

    CD-ul a inceput sa fie accesibil pe piata prin 1984, desi existau device-uri si discuri de prin 81-82 (disponibile inclusiv pentru clientii normali), dar erau obscen de scumpe.
    DVD de prin 1995 a inceput sa fie relativ "accesibil"
    Iar BluRay din 2006 a fost chiar "foarte accesibil" (10x PS3 )

    Deci 11 ani e intervalul. 2006+11=2017. Dar deja de asta nu mai sunt sigur, m-am inselat si cu PS4 (care a amanat cu un an ciclul de 6 ani intre PS-uri).

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