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Thread: Microsoft kicking "cheaters" - no questions asked !

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    Admin MonkY's Avatar

    Microsoft kicking "cheaters" - no questions asked !

    Mi-au cazut ochii deunazi pe o "poveste" impresionanta, despre un gamer pasionat de Xbox 360, care ajunsese la un gamerscore de peste 120.000 de puncte. Un gamer care cumparase si inchiriase aproape toate titlurile de Xbox 360. Gamer care s-a trezit brusc intr-o zi ca i-a fost resetat gamescore-ul iar la Gamer Zone a fost trecut "Cheater". Din pacate, chiar daca i-ar fi fost acordat pe buna dreptate acest calificativ, explicatia a fost mai mult decat hilara "it is abnormal for a person to achieve an undisclosed amount of achievements in such a short period of time." Prin urmare, nu pot sa va recomand decat sa aveti grija, nu care cumva sa terminati jocurile prea repede, sau sa aveti gamerscore prea mare, pentru ca intr-o zi cineva s-ar putea sa considere ca ati depasit viteza

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    Microsoft Cheats XBox 360 Gamer Out of 121,250 GamerPoints

    So imagine this: You're a huge gamer who bought the Xbox 360 on day one. You stood in line for over 20 hours in the pouring rain, just for Microsoft's newest console. Pretty hardcore, right? It gets better.

    Imagine now, with me, that over the course of the past several years, you've played games on your 360 nearly every chance you got. You've racked up a huge gamerscore, only to have it all taken away one day without ANY warning.

    This is story of SlapStic reader "JackTheWhack." Jack, whose real name is Jack Barbosa, not only had a huge gamerscore; he had more than any other person in the entire state of New Jersey: 121,250, in fact.

    He achieved this impressive score through renting via Gamefly for games that he was only mildly interested in, while he purchased many games that he thought could give him more lasting enjoyment. Obviously, with a score that high, he WAS a MASSIVE 360 fan.

    So last night, while playing Mirror's Edge, Jack received an achievement that he had already gotten earlier in the day. Confused, Jack went and checked out his Gamercard, where he discovered with considerable horror that he now had a Gamerscore of 25, and that his Gamer Zone had been changed to "Cheater." He was also unable to change his Gamer Zone to anything else.

    This all went down with no warning from Microsoft, and not so much as a letter explaining things once they had done it. JackTheWhack had just gotten over three years of his gaming record wiped clean. There was no trial, and there was no jury. Microsoft simply assumed that he was a cheater, and took all of his Gamerpoints away from him.

    This all seems very strange, especially given the fact that Jack was interviewed last Thursday to be featured as a "Spotlight Gamer." He was told that his interview would be up on the 360 dashboard in around two weeks. So at what point did Microsoft decide that instead of being worthy of attention, Jack was a dirty cheater that deserved punishment?

    Jack Barbosa is no cheater, and he called Microsoft themselves to see if he could get things straightened out. They essentially informed Jack that he was just out of luck, saying that it was "abnormal for a person to achieve an undisclosed amount of achievements in such a short period of time." Jack even tried to find out what games or achievements on his gamercard were in question, but they refused to comment.

    There are things working for Jack to make it seem obvious that he did not cheat. For one, he didn't get the full 1,000 points on many of his games. Like many gamers, he simply gets as many achievements as he can before moving on to the next game if things start taking too long. So with a lot of games he DOES have the full 1,000 points, but more often he has closer to 500, or even as low as 5 for games that he really didn't take a liking to.

    I came upon all this information about the situation through an interview that I did with Jack. In it, he mentioned that he was selling all of his 360 products on his Amazon.com storefront. I asked him if he would consider going back to his 360 if he somehow managed to get all of his gamerpoints back, to which he responded, "I will never return to the 360, even if a new system were to be released. I would be gone."

    He also went on to inform me that he will be purchasing a Playstation 3 as soon as possible and that all he wants from Microsoft is a change in their policies that will keep such a thing from ever happening to anyone else.
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    Senior Member mentorica's Avatar
    Niste idioti ..

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    VIP Member Donely's Avatar
    Ce pretentii sai ai de MS ? Asa consola asa atitudine !!!!

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    Senior Member istrategie's Avatar
    Asta m-a mai destins putin! Thx!

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    Member obidan's Avatar
    Damn, ala era trully hardcore...
    Damn M$!

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    Senior Member sekhemet's Avatar
    ce sa mai...ma intristat faza.....
    inca odata MS ne arata ce le poate pielea

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    Senior Member Dj Mo's Avatar
    sunt oameni cu gamerscore mai mare decat al lui Barbosa asta si nu au patit nimic... posibil ca au luat si au calculat gamerscore-ul la timpul efectiv pe care l-a petrecut pe consola... iar faptul ca nu are 1000/1000 la anumite jocuri, nu inseamna ca este curat

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    Senior Member ffocus's Avatar
    daca sunt acumulate pe bune e mare pacat. pe de alta parte am vazut destui "gameri" care reparau de zor vehicule prin bad company sau stateau pe masini in flacari in resistance 2

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    Turbo Killer RonanN1's Avatar
    ...mă tem

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    Member leggollas11's Avatar
    e greu sa realizez de cine imi e mila mai mult... de saracu` baiat care a pierdut marea parte a timpului sau inchis ca martalogu` intr`o camera si jucand jocurile si rejucandu`le pt. mai multe puncte, de parca cineva iar fi dat la final un premiu adevarat sau bani (inteleg prin hardcore cei care joaca foarte mult si ajung sa fie 'invincibili', nu cei care joaca WoW sau jocuri in general ca sclavii si nu mai ies din casa la un 'suc/pizza/panarama'), sau de martalogii si incapabilii de la Microsoft care merg dupa instinct, ca Harry Potter ..... ahh..... sooo hard to tell.

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    Senior Member Uziwood's Avatar
    Their Spidey Sense was tingling.

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    Member Wargasm's Avatar
    Plang, imi plange sufletul pentru el. Saracul, da-i dracu pe aia care n-au ce manca, el este adevarutul nevoias. Nu se poate asa ceva. Give him back his score

    O petitie ceva? For one who has no life?

    Acum serios, de ce sunteti voi indignati?

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    Senior Member Nariggar's Avatar
    Poate s-au gindit cei de la MS sa-l aduca oleaca la realitate pe cetatean, poate statea prea mult in casa in fata consolei.
    Who knows? Dar sa resetezi fara preaviz ceva, orice, este o magarie.

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    Admin MonkY's Avatar
    Wargasm: daca e sa vorbim despre cei care n-au ce manca si sa facem o parabola... well, atunci inchidem toate site-urile/forumurile si plecam acasa. Nu de alta, dar investim mii de euro pe an in hosting, servere, etc... pe cand altii nu au de unde bea apa. Cu baniii astia hraneam un sat intreg, nu ? Si daca tot incepem asa si ne luam de omul ala care a dat o groaza de bani pe jocuri in timp ce altii mor de foame... eu zic sa continuam si sa ne luam de Gigi Becali, fotbalul romanesc, politicieni, etc...

    Normal ca ne punem si noi intrebari... Cand vezi niste pasionati cum primesc un sut in fund, stai si tu si te intrebi. La urma urmei, ei fac bani datorita acestor pasionati, nu ?

    Indignati ? Well... imi place sa cred ca in comunitatile de gameri exista si un anumit respect si "camaraderie" cu ceilalti. Si ne place sau nu, dar punem un pic de suflet in chestia asta. Macar il compatimim, daca indignati nu suntem.

    P.S. Daca maine i s-ar reseta gamertagul lui Dj Mo, pentru care stiu ca a "muncit" atat de mult... sa inteleg ca n-ai simti nimic. Well, no problem. Asa sunt unii...

    P.P.S. Cat despre faza cu "petitia"... a fost chiar gratuita...

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    Senior Member Dj Mo's Avatar
    hihihihi... Dj Mo e Dj Mo... nu il uita nimeni chiar daca are gamerscore 0... ce modest sunt

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    Admin MonkY's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Dj Mo View Post
    hihihihi... Dj Mo e Dj Mo... nu il uita nimeni chiar daca are gamerscore 0... ce modest sunt
    Nu era vorba de uitat... stiu doar cat de mult te-ai agitat pentru achievements gen Seriously. Sa nu-mi spui te rog ca ai fi jucat la fel de mult daca nu ar fi fost anumite achievements

    Anyway, daca nu te deranjeaza, atunci... in spiritul wargasmic: "RESETATI-S-AR !"

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    Member Sanjuro's Avatar
    Omul n-a pierdut nimic și este un mare fraier. Cu bucuria de a fi jucat acele jocuri care i-au plăcut va răm�ne toate viața. Asta dacă nu cumva credeți că achievements-urile sunt baza. Well, do you?

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    Senior Member Uziwood's Avatar
    Sigur ca ramane cu bucuria de a fi jucat acele jocuri, dar gandeste-te la achievements ca la niste note: Tu muncesti, inveti, te zbati si iti iese media 9.50+. Iar dupa cativa ani de truda vine unu si te anunta ca defapt o sa trebuiasca sa incepi de la 0 ca li se pare lor ca ai copiat, dar tu ramai cu acele cunostinte pe care le-ai aculumat. Nu te-ai enerva daca ai pati asa ceva, dupa ce ai muncit sa se stearga totul si sa te catalogheze lumea drept un trisor?

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    Member Sanjuro's Avatar
    Prea e cusută toată chestia asta cu ața albă. Ieri făcea un interviu cu MS să-i publice lui povestea de gamer care este, azi e considerat un trișor cu 0 puncte. Și bine�nțeles că apare presa on-line care nu verifică nimic, cum nu poate nici el să o facă, și prezintă această �nt�mplare "cutremurătură" cu un vădit atac la adresa MS și cu prezentarea alternativei mai bune, zic ei, Sony.
    Pute a făcătură. �mi vine greu să cred că oamenii ăia nu l-au scormonit bine de tot pe acest individ �nainte să �l sancționeze. Cred că MS aveau mai mult de c�știgat dacă �l prezentau ca pe un fanboy Xbox, dar, incredibil, au decis să fie oameni corecți.
    Eu am trișat ca să iau achievements, recunosc. Am vorbit cu oameni să mă lase să-i bat ca să c�știg nu știu c�te chestii consecutive, am returnat favoarea, merit să fiu catalogat drept cheater. Cel care nu joacă �n spiritul competiției, trișează, corect? Ce mare lucru că i-au șters ăstuia progresul dacă omul a �ncălcat regulile doar și prin puținul lucru pe care l-am spus mai sus? Ori respecți ori nu respecți, nu există cale de mijloc.

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    Member Snake's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanjuro View Post
    Și bine�nțeles că apare presa on-line care nu verifică nimic, cum nu poate nici el să o facă, și prezintă această �nt�mplare "cutremurătură" cu un vădit atac la adresa MS și cu prezentarea alternativei mai bune, zic ei, Sony.
    De fapt cred ca s-a trezit fanboy-ul din tine. N-are nici-o legatura cu cat de vinovat/nevinovat era acel gamer cum nu are nici-o legatura cu presa online care "nu verifica nimic". Tie ti s-a ridicat nivelul colesterolului si adrenalina fix la paragraful cu "a vandut tot si-a trecut pe PS3". Fii serios si recunoaste

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