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    Asus aduce un nou router monstru pe piata: RT-AC87U

    E o nebunie ce se intampla in ultima vreme in lumea routerelor din categoria "home & small business". As putea spune ca au inceput sa preia ritmul cu care se avanseaza in randul telefoanelor mobile si al tabletelor. Cu alte cuvinte, inca nu s-a maturizat complet un firmware pentru flagship-ul actual, ca deja primim un nou produs, mult mai performant si mai inovator. In cazul de fata, desi Asus era in top cu al sau model RT-AC68U, a si prezentat un nou model, denumit RT-AC87U, model ce ar trebui sa apara si in magazinele noastre cat de curand.

    Ce aduce nou un astfel de model si de ce ar avea nevoie cineva de un router atat de performant? Well, in primul rand, acesta este primul router wireless cu standard 802.11ac ce vine cu un setup de tip MIMO cu 4 x 4 antene (4 de transmisie, 4 de receptie). In al doilea rand, AC87U ar fi unul dintre primele routere cu doua procesoare dual core. Unul din ele fiind un SoC de la Quantenna tactat la 500Mhz si unul de la Broadcom tactat la 1Ghz. Cele 2 procesoare, combinate cu cele 4 antene, pot livra un maximum de 2334Mbit/s. Asta inseamna ca pe wireless un AC87U poate duce un maximum de 2.3Gbps, ceea ce este in opinia mea o mare realizare (pe cablu avem totusi un maxim de 1Gbps). Desigur, un asemenea bandwith ar putea fi realizat cu un numar mare de clienti, si este irelevant sa achizitionezi un astfel de router pentru un singur calculator (de exemplu).

    Un alt nou feature cu care vine AC87U ar fi MU-MIMO, dar care din pacate nu este relevant intrucat nu avem clienti care sa suporte asa ceva. Poate mai important este noul Adaptive QoS sau AiRadar. Desigur, avem deja clasicul port USB 3.0 care deja am vazut ca poate duce upto 70MB/s la citire (ceea ce e foarte OK pentru un router la un asemenea pret). Si pentru ca tot am vorbit de pret, acesta este de 279.99$. Poate parea mult, insa pentru cine are nevoie de astfel de putere, e un pret chiar decent.

    Acum insa, inainte de a va recomanda un astfel de model (pe care personal nu am pus mana inca), va sfatuiesc sa nu va aruncati direct sa cumparati si sa aveti un picut de rabdare, intrucat toate aceste noi functii sunt inca la o "varsta frageda" si stim cu totii cat de mult conteaza un firmware stabil. Probabil ca intr-o luna-doua, cei de la Asus vor rezolva toate cele (impreuna cu RMerlin, desigur). Mai jos aveti si comunicatul de presa oficial de la Asus:
    ASUS Announces RT-AC87U AC2400 Dual-Band Gigabit Wireless Router
    World’s first 4×4 802.11ac Wi-Fi router with multi-user MIMO and universal beamforming boasts 2334Mbit/s combined speeds and unrivaled coverage

    Taipei, Taiwan (15th August, 2014) — ASUS today announced RT-AC87U, the world’s first AC2400-class dual-band 802.11ac wireless router with a four-transmit, four-receive (4×4) antenna configuration. This stunningly-designed, easy-to-use router is also the first in the world to employ multi-user MIMO (MU-MIMO) technology. Combined with ASUS AiRadar universal beamforming, adaptive Quality-of-Service (QoS), plus AiProtection with exclusive Trend Micro security, RT-AC87U is expertly-engineered for outstanding performance and coverage in today’s multi-device households. Offering 5GHz speeds that are faster than wired Gigabit Ethernet, along with class-leading 2.4GHz speeds and reliable multi-floor coverage, RT-AC87U is the perfect choice for discerning users with busy multi-device home networks who need extreme coverage, lightning-fast performance, rock-solid stability and total peace of mind.

    Advanced wireless technology for faster-than-wired speeds
    The AC2400-class RT-AC87U has blistering 1734Mbit/s 802.11ac speeds on the 5GHz frequency band — faster than wired Gigabit Ethernet — and uses Broadcom® TurboQAM™ to boost 802.11n 2.4GHz performance from 450Mbit/s to 600Mbit/s with compatible devices such as ASUS PCE-AC681. This gives RT-AC87U an amazing combined maximum concurrent data rate of up to 2334Mbit/s.

    Maximum coverage, with no dead spots
    The explosive growth in smartphones, tablets, laptops, smart TVs and other Wi-Fi-enabled gadgets means that in a modern household the available wireless bandwidth is often shared between many devices. In standard routers, as more devices are connected the network can become overloaded, leading to instability, lags and slowdowns. RT-AC87U uses four high-performance antennas, four separate spatial data streams, ASUS AiRadar, MU-MIMO and adaptive QoS technology to solve these problems. The 4×4 antennas improve coverage by up to 33% compared to standard 3×3 models, and typically RT-AC87U can effortlessly cover an area up to 465m2, making it ideal for eliminating ‘dead spots’ in large or multi-floor environments.

    Supercharged performance with two dual-core processors
    At the heart of RT-AC87U is the latest Quantenna™ system-on-a-chip (SoC), featuring its own powerful dedicated dual-core processor that handles all 802.11ac Wi-Fi-related computations. This frees up RT-AC87U’s 1GHz dual-core CPU to perform other processor-intensive system tasks — such as media streaming — much more efficiently. The result is a superb multitasking capability that can easily handle the simultaneous demands of all connected devices, giving an outstandingly-responsive network and also improving USB storage performance.

    In our tests using three wired and two wireless PCs to simulate a busy multi-client network, RT-AC87U delivered up to 50% more total throughput (combined 2.4GHz, 5GHz and NAT performance) compared to a typical router with a single 1.2GHz dual-core processor2. USB file transfer performance over Wi-Fi is also improved dramatically — when transferring files to and from SuperSpeed USB 3.0 devices over 802.11ac Wi-Fi, RT-AC87U can perform up to twice as fast as a router with a single 1.2GHz dual-core processor3.

    The best-ever internet experience, for all devices
    AiRadar uses universal beamforming, which detects the location of devices and individually focuses the wireless signal towards them for optimum reception. This feature even works with previous-generation Wi-Fi devices. The revolutionary and future-proof MU-MIMO technology means that RT-AC87U will be able to connect to multiple MU-MIMO-compatible clients at each device’s maximum speed simultaneously, unlike standard single-user MIMO where individual devices have to wait for sequential data transmissions. This means that as users add more MU-MIMO-enabled devices, the router’s capacity actually increases, giving all users the best possible internet experience4.

    Adaptive QoS is a feature that intelligently and automatically prioritizes and allocates available bandwidth to devices and applications as they need it, ensuring smoothly-streaming HD videos, lag-free online gaming, crystal-clear VoIP calls and uninterrupted web browsing.

    Total peace of mind — AiProtection with Trend Micro security
    Recognizing the increasing complexity and diversity of home networks, and the difficulty of ensuring effective network-wide security, RT-AC87U introduces the powerful new AiProtection feature, with exclusive Trend Micro™ technology. This employs a three-pronged approach to security — prevention, protection and mitigation — that assures total peace of mind. Its state-of-the-art protection continuously safeguards users and all connected devices from malware, malicious websites and other cyber-threats, while safeguarding user privacy and keeping a constant check on network security status. Alerts are raised whenever an infected device or other potential security problems, such as insecure passwords, are found.

    1 See Networking - PCE-AC68 - ASUS for details.
    2 The actual throughput may vary due to ISP speed, Wi-Fi interference, client distance, environment and other factors.
    3 The actual transfer speed may vary due to Wi-Fi interference, client distance, storage devices, environment and other factors.
    4 Requires MU-MIMO-enabled clients with up to 3×3 spatial streams.
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    Admin MonkY's Avatar
    Aveti mai jos imagini detaliate ale noului AC87U.
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    Admin MonkY's Avatar
    Si cateva imagini cu software-ul default (care deja vad ca e obsolete - la ultima versiune au adaugat inclusiv grafice pentru procesor usage).
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    Senior Member OlBlueEyes's Avatar
    Nu cunosc mai nimic in materie de routere insa pentru mine cel mai puternic atu il vad semnalul . Daca ai o casa cu 5-6 camere si alea cu dublu strat de caramida ai semnal full in toata casa la banii astia ?

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    Member Snake's Avatar
    Am inteles eu corect sau routerul asta de fapt are 2 procesoare cu 2 core-uri? Adica e quad? Si de ce ma rog ar avea nevoie de 2 procesoare separate?

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    Admin MonkY's Avatar
    OlBlueEyes: Eu cu un AC68U am dat net la o casa imensa (cred ca avea vreo 20 de camere)... iar pt. partea de exterior (erau niste mii de mp) a mai fost achizitionat inca unul si pus ca extender. Deci cu siguranta AC87U va face fata cu brio la 5-6 camere. Semnal full nu vei avea cu siguranta peste tot... insa nu vei putea sa te plangi. Sunt curios ce putere au antenele respective (pentru ca nu gasesc pe nicaieri informatia aceasta)... dar oricum, fiind detasabile, poti oricand sa pui altele mai puternice.

    Snake: Procesorul Broadcom se ocupa de banda de 2.4Ghz, de usb storage si functiile de routare. Celalalt procesor (Quantenna) se ocupa strict de banda de 5Ghz. In felul acesta se reduce load-ul pe procesor daca ai foarte multe device-uri pe WiFi (si cum majoritatea sunt pe 5Ghz these days, it means a lot).

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    Cons. Mercedes-Benz djleo666's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by MonkY View Post
    Aveti mai jos imagini detaliate ale noului AC87U.
    Este oficial, din punctul meu de vedere acest router nu e facut de Asus ci de Alienware Si MonkY, nu ma poti contrazice daca te uiti atent la el...
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    Junior Member Metaf's Avatar
    Bestie de router.

    Ar trebui sa schimb un DLINK care da net la o casa destul de mare (fier beton la greu, placa groasa) si cam gafaie.
    Cand sunt multe device-uri conectate simultan da semne de oboseala ... la capitolul semnal, am zone la parter unde nu sare de mai mult de 2 liniute (in conditiile in care el este la etajul 1).

    Poate ca aceasta jucarie reprezinta o solutie pentru a mea problema ...
    Bag de seama ca nu ar trebui sa ma mai enervez ulterior pe chestiuni legate de semnal.

    PS: chiar ca au luat-o razna astia din industrie cu routerele. Macar mergem inainte, se cam termina cu "o cutiuta si o antena infipta-n ea" pusa la ditamai "teava de net".
    "Las' ca merge", "toate routerele sunt cam la fel" ... e pacat in Romania la ce net avem sa il "imprastiem wireless" cu device-uri sub-par.

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    Admin MonkY's Avatar
    djleo666: sa stii ca la asta m-am gandit si eu prima oara cand l-am vazut, mai ales ca nu parea designul clasic Asus. Alienware fans will love it!

    Metaf: incearca si solutii mai putin "ortodoxe". De exp. noi intr-un caz am rezolvat problema prelungind antena... in altul am pozitionat routerul (dupa zeci de incercari) intr-un alt loc... de cele mai multe ori am gasit routerul clientului ecranat de cate un TV imens sau de o groaza de cabluri electrice.

    Sa luam un exemplu: daca ai un router cu antena detasabila pe 2.4Ghz, incearca intai cu o astfel de antena de 8dBi - sau varianta mai ieftina dar mai slaba, de 5dBi. Acestea sunt antene omnidirectionale, dar de cele mai multe ori esti nevoit sa apelezi la antene directionale.

    Now back on-topic, am observat ca antenele de la AC87U au un design complet nou... cum n-am mai vazut pana acum. Sper sa fie si eficiente.

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    Junior Member alex2_ar's Avatar
    Eu zic ca seamana cu seria lor de laptopuri de gaming G750, concurenta alienware....

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    Junior Member Metaf's Avatar
    Mersi Monky, apreciez ajutorul si recomandarea.

    Ce-i drept nici nu prea am avut timp de el.
    Ma gandisem la ceva de genul la inceputul verii ... dar nu stiam cat de mult ar schimba datele problemei. Am zis ca si routerul e cam obosit.
    Pot sa incerc cu una de 8db si vedem ce iese -- produsul se poate returna in cazul in care nu satisface nevoile.
    Pe timpul verii am cea mai mare nevoie de el, iar vara, s-a cam dus.

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    Member paulone's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by OlBlueEyes View Post
    Nu cunosc mai nimic in materie de routere insa pentru mine cel mai puternic atu il vad semnalul . Daca ai o casa cu 5-6 camere si alea cu dublu strat de caramida ai semnal full in toata casa la banii astia ?
    asta NU tine doar de router....poti sa ai unul extraterestru daca device-ul nu are putere buna de captare....
    de pilda exista o diferenta uriasa intre un smartphone si un laptop, la mine cu un router Linksys EA6500 laptopul are semnal full indiferent in ce parte a casei sunt in schimb la telefon(samsung s3) semnalul este la jumate....

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    Member Darku's Avatar
    sunt curios care ar fi mai performant, acesta sau Linksys WRT1900AC

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    Member paulone's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Darku View Post
    sunt curios care ar fi mai performant, acesta sau Linksys WRT1900AC
    mie mi-a crapat un Linksys EA6500 dupa 1 an si jumatate, noroc ca era in garantie si mi-au dat un EA6700 la schimb....
    concluziile le poate trage oricine...
    daca ar fi acum sa-mi iau un router bun as inclina fara sa clipesc catre Asus

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    Admin MonkY's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Darku View Post
    sunt curios care ar fi mai performant, acesta sau Linksys WRT1900AC
    Teoretic in acest moment nu se poate "bate" nimeni cu AC87U de la Asus si R8000 de la Netgear. Sunt primele (si singurele) care merg pe ultima generatie de SoC. Btw, am deschis un thread pt. discutii pe tema asta: http://www.consolegames.ro/forum/f29...cutii-routere/.

    Cat despre Linksys, va reamintesc ca aceasta nu mai este o companie CISCO, ci BELKIN.

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    Admin MonkY's Avatar
    Dupa cum se poate vedea si in testele de la CNET, AC87U pur si simplu spulbera concurenta. Si inca nu are firmware 100% final!
    Asus AC2400 RT-AC87U Dual-band Wireless Gigabit Router review - Page 2 - CNET
    Attached Images Attached Images asus_rt-ac87u_cnet_benchmark_1.png asus_rt-ac87u_cnet_benchmark_2.png

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