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  1. #41 SP
    Member westy9009's Avatar
    Offtopic insa parca vad ca in Martie cumpara Nintendo pe EA Games

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  2. #42 SP
    Member codpin's Avatar
    Si Microsoft pe Sony!

  3. #43 SP
    Manager paul's Avatar
    Au mai fost si altii interesati:
    Quote Originally Posted by The Verge
    The initial conversation about an acquisition happened between Spencer and Kotick on November 19th, just three days after the WSJ’s report about the Activision Blizzard CEO and a single day after Spencer said told Xbox staff he was “deeply troubled.” It might have even come up as part of the same conversation.

    “In the course of a conversation on a different topic between Mr. Spencer and Mr. Kotick, Mr. Spencer raised that Microsoft was interested in discussing strategic opportunities between Activision Blizzard and Microsoft and asked whether it would be possible to have a call with Mr. Nadella the following day,” the document reads. The next day (a Saturday), Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella was apparently more explicit, indicating that “Microsoft was interested in exploring a strategic combination with Activision Blizzard.”

    One thing I found interesting was that Activision Blizzard was in touch with four other companies and one individual about some sort of deal in addition to Microsoft. Disappointingly, they are only named as companies A, C, D, and E, and the individual is named as “Individual B,” so we don’t know who else could have ended up owning Call of Duty. None of those deals went through for various reasons — Company E, for example, said it couldn’t do a full acquisition of Activision Blizzard — and Microsoft was rapidly and aggressively pursuing its deal, getting the terms together before some other companies had even entered the picture.
    Read exactly how Microsoft’s $68.7 billion deal for Activision Blizzard came together

  4. #44 SP
    Manager paul's Avatar
    Spencer i-a scris lui Ryan ca se lanseaza Call of Duty si pe PlayStation cativa ani dupa expirarea contractului:
    Quote Originally Posted by The Verge
    “In January, we provided a signed agreement to Sony to guarantee Call of Duty on PlayStation, with feature and content parity, for at least several more years beyond the current Sony contract, an offer that goes well beyond typical gaming industry agreements,” says Microsoft Gaming CEO Phil Spencer in a statement to The Verge.

    Exactly how many years Call of Duty is guaranteed on PlayStation still isn’t crystal clear, but Bloomberg originally reported earlier this year that Microsoft was committed to releasing Call of Duty on PlayStation “for at least the next two years,” suggesting that Sony’s marketing deal for the franchise could expire in 2024. Microsoft then publicly committed in February to keeping Call of Duty “available on PlayStation beyond the existing agreement and into the future.”
    Microsoft will keep Call of Duty on PlayStation for ‘several more years’ beyond existing deal

  5. #45 SP
    Why so serious ? razvanrazy's Avatar
    Ar fi fraieri sa-si taie craca de sub picioare cu milioane de vanzari de jocuri sau in app purchases pe platforma PS. Au de recuperat foarte multi bani si nu-i vor recupera doar din abonamentele Game Pass.

  6. #46 SP
    Member lukecelmare's Avatar
    PlayStation boss Jim Ryan has spoken out against Microsoft's offer to keep Call of Duty on PlayStation for "at least several more years" beyond Sony's existing agreement with publisher Activision Blizzard, calling the deal "inadequate on many levels" - despite Microsoft's insistence it went "well beyond typical gaming industry agreements".

  7. #47 SP
    Member lukecelmare's Avatar
    Boss of PlayStation Jim Ryan travelled to Brussels to meet EU regulators in person to discuss Microsoft's impending Activision Blizzard purchase.

    Ryan has been vocal in his criticism of the proposed $68bn deal, which would see Xbox own the Call of Duty publisher.

    Omul asta chiar este suparat , desi a fost asigurat ca nu pleaca COD de pe Playstation .

  8. #48 SP
    Why so serious ? razvanrazy's Avatar
    E suparat degeaba. Sunt doar afaceri. Sigur si Microsoft e suparat de multe studiouri achizitionate de Sony. Daca vor sa schimbe ceva, sa vina cu banu.
    Pana atunci, e doar ipocrizie si mult PR la mijloc.
    Eu chiar sper ca Microsoft sa taie macaroana si sa nu mai lanseze si pe PS, desi si-ar taia singuri craca de sub picioare la niste milioane bune, anual.

  9. #49 SP
    Senior Member sexbobomb91's Avatar
    E ceva normal in cazul unor comisii ca asta sa fie invitati competitorii lor pentru a-si expune parerea.
    In articol spune ca pana si reprezentanti din partea Google/Stadia au facut acelasi lucru.
    Iar ce face Microsoft nu se prea compara cu ce a facut Sony. Majoritatea studiourilor Sony sunt construite de ei, Bungie fiind singura achizitie "third-party studio".

    Microsoft puteau la randul lor sa-si faca studio-uri first-party ca lumea dar nu au prea reusit (343 Industries un bun exemplu) si acum sunt disperati sa le cumpere.
    Dupa management-ul lor parca vad ca si acestea vor merge pe urma Rare sau Lionhead ...

  10. #50 SP
    Member lukecelmare's Avatar
    Rare a facut un joc pe care il joaca milioane de oameni in fiecare zi...

    Nu inteleg chestia asta sa construiasca ei de ce sa cumpere? Nu e ca si cum opreste cineva pe Sony sau Nintendo sa cumpere. MS au 23 de first party studios , Sony are 13 .

    Pana la urma asta e problema
    And even if Call of Duty was to remain on PlayStation, there's also the likelihood of Microsoft launching future COD games via Xbox Game Pass - leaving customers with a choice of whether to play the game via their Xbox subscriptions, or stump up £70 on PlayStation.

  11. #51 SP
    Senior Member sexbobomb91's Avatar
    FTC sues to block Microsoft's Activision Blizzard merger | Engadget
    “Microsoft has already shown that it can and will withhold content from its gaming rivals,” Holly Vedova, director of the FTC’s Bureau of Competition, said in a press release. “Today, we seek to stop Microsoft from gaining control over a leading independent game studio and using it to harm competition in multiple dynamic and fast-growing gaming markets.”
    "The FTC pointed to Microsoft’s record of acquiring and using valuable gaming content to suppress competition from rival consoles, including its acquisition of ZeniMax, parent company of Bethesda Softworks (a well-known game developer)," the agency said in a press release. "Microsoft decided to make several of Bethesda's titles including Starfield and Redfall Microsoft exclusives despite assurances it had given to European antitrust authorities that it had no incentive to withhold games from rival consoles."
    Se pare ca minciunile spuse de Microsoft ajung sa-i doara acum.

  12. #52 SP
    Member lukecelmare's Avatar
    Este un thread separat ptr aceste discutii aici.

    Speaking to Bloomberg following the announcement of the acquisition, Xbox chief Phil Spencer said that future Bethesda games will be released on PC and Xbox, and via Microsoft’s Xbox Game Pass subscription service. As for third-party platforms, Spencer said, “We’ll take other consoles on a case-by-case basis.”

    Now that Microsoft is poised to take full control of ZeniMax and everything in its portfolio — Microsoft says the deal is expected to close in the second half of its 2021 fiscal year, which runs from Jan. 1-June 30, 2021
    Articolul este din 2020 , 21 Septembrie cand a fost facut ca doresc sa cumpere Bethesda.

    Eu as fi curios daca nu reuseste aceasta achizitie cat de prietenosi vor mai fi cei de la Activision cu Sony.

  13. #53 SP
    Senior Member sexbobomb91's Avatar
    Aia au declarat ei public, dar FTC-ul spune ca Microsoft au mintit autoritatile europene antitrust.
    Stephen Totilo explica mai bine argumentele FTC-ului:

  14. #54 SP
    Member lukecelmare's Avatar
    Din ce ai postat eu inteleg asa, daca gresesc sa ma corecteze cineva.

    MS spune EU, vrem sa cumparam Bethesda. Vom onora toate contractele actuale, pentru jocuri viitoare vom analiza de la caz la caz exclusivitatea. Nu face sens ptr noi sa facem totul exclusiv.

    EU concluzioneaza ca MS nu are nici un motiv in a inceta a oferi jocuri pe celelalte platforme si sunt de acord cu case by case exclusivity din moment ce au aprobat tranzactia. Ma gandesc ca daca EU se simtea mintita se declansa o investigatie, o amenda, ceva.

    Chiar ultimele expansions la Elder Scrolls Online si Fallout 78 sunt disponibile ptr PS . Update la Skyrim este disponibil ptr PS. Toata lumea primeste egal.

  15. #55 SP
    Senior Member sexbobomb91's Avatar
    Problema FTC-ului e ca Microsoft au folosit niste argumente pentru care nu ar face jocurile Bethesda exclusive, dar pana la urma tot le-au facut ( Starfield si Redfall sunt exclusive) .
    Iar in dealul cu Activision vin cu aceleasi argumente, deci nu pot sa aiba incredere in ei ca nu vor face acelasi lucru.

  16. #56 SP
    Member lukecelmare's Avatar
    Eu vad ca scrie asa

    n its merger notice to the European Commission on ZeniMax, Microsoft stated: “Microsoft will honor all
    of ZeniMax’s obligations to continue to make its current games available on other gaming hardware,
    including two planned console exclusive releases for the Sony PlayStation 5, Deathloop and Ghostwire:
    Tokyo.” (Microsoft ZeniMax Form CO, January 29, 2021, at pp. 4-5)
    o It further stated: “Microsoft will not make any existing ZeniMax games exclusive to Xbox. They
    will continue to be available for purchase for PCs and other gaming hardware for which they are
    currently available, which will ensure that they continue to be available to current players of
    those games. Microsoft will not be removing players’ access to any current games, no matter
    where they currently play.” (Microsoft ZeniMax Form CO, January 29, 2021, at p. 13)
    For future games, Microsoft also maintained its position:
    • In its merger notice to the European Commission on ZeniMax, Microsoft stated: “Future decisions on
    whether to distribute ZeniMax games for other consoles will be made on a case-by-case basis, taking into
    account player demand and sentiment. Factors that will inform Microsoft’s decision-making on future
    games include consumer demand and preference and the willingness of third parties to work with
    Microsoft to launch games for their devices.” (Microsoft ZeniMax Form CO, January 29, 2021, at p. 5)
    Nu vad nici o minciuna, ce e mai sus este din documentele trimise EU.

  17. #57 SP
    Senior Member sexbobomb91's Avatar
    Eu ma refeream la interepretarea lui Totilo, unde spune ca aceleasi argumente au fost folosite in ambele deal-uri:
    Microsoft was making all the arguments it now makes about why it wouldn't deprive Sony of Call of Duty:
    - wouldn't make $$ sense
    - not enough people would switch consoles
    Cu toate astea, au ales sa le faca exclusive.

    Si chiar in quote-ul tau zice "Future decisions on whether to distribute ZeniMax games for other consoles will be made on a case-by-case basis, taking into account player demand and sentiment."
    Nu stiu cum sta treaba cu Redfall dar pentru Starfield sunt destul de sigur ca "player demand-ul" ar exista si pe consolele PlayStation.
    Deci din nou pare ca Microsoft nu s-a tinut de cuvant.

  18. #58 SP
    Member lukecelmare's Avatar
    Discutia a plecat de la faptul ca MS a mintit in cazul Bethesda si acum minte in cazul Activision si or sa faca COD exclusiv chiar daca au oferit angajamente pe 10 ani atat Sony cat si Nintendo si Steam.

    Mie nu mi se pare ca MS a mintit, nu scrie nicaieri ca viitoarele jocuri nu vor fi exclusive ci se va tine cont de mai mult factori printe care consumer demand and preference and the willingness of third parties to work with Microsoft to launch games for their devices.

    Also Sony

    A new internal report from MLex says this:

    Microsoft's Call of Duty deal with Nintendo is misleading, Sony argues

    Sony has criticized Microsoft's deal to make the game Call of Duty available on Nintendo — should its $69 billion acquisition of Activision Blizzard be approved by regulators — as smoke and mirrors, MLex has learned.

    Activision Blizzard could supply Call of Duty to Nintendo today, but doesn't, because Nintendo's younger audience is not interested in the first-person shooter and a previous version of the game on its console was a commercial flop, the arch critic of the deal says, MLex understands.

    Instead of being a logical business decision, the licensing agreement is a tactic designed to make Microsoft — whose acquisition has drawn concerns in the EU, UK and US — look cooperative with regulators, the argument goes.

    Furthermore, Nintendo's Switch could not run Call of Duty easily and may never be able to, Sony argues, MLex understands. Developing a version of the game compatible with the Switch could take years, making a 10-year licensing deal meaningless.

    It is easier for Nintendo to enter into such an agreement, Sony says, MLex has learned. Nintendo doesn't need to worry about equal treatment for its subscription service or cloud gaming service as those are not areas where it currently competes aggressively, the argument goes.

  19. #59 SP
    Member lukecelmare's Avatar
    Microsoft faces legal action from 10 gamers to block its merger with Call of Duty maker Activision Blizzard. The proposed acquisition would give Microsoft "far-outsized market power in the video game industry," according to the complaint "with the ability to foreclose rivals, limit output, reduce consumer choice, raise prices, and further inhibit competition."

  20. #60 SP
    Member lukecelmare's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by sexbobomb91 View Post
    Aia au declarat ei public, dar FTC-ul spune ca Microsoft au mintit autoritatile europene antitrust.
    Stephen Totilo explica mai bine argumentele FTC-ului:
    The EU Commission has issued a statement refuting one of the United States Federal Trade Commission's key claims listed as justification for blocking Microsoft's acquisition of Activision Blizzard. On Thursday, the FTC shared a public complaint claiming Microsoft's Activision Blizzard acquisition was "reasonably likely to substantially lessen competition or tend to create a monopoly." Apparently, the accuracy of part of the FTC's claims against Microsoft has prompted a correction from the EU Commission.

    Cam penibil.... FTC-ul

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