Windows 8 - Windows 8.1

[djleo666]

Da, au aparut o gramada de chestii noi in update-ul asta. Dar tot Win 8 ramane la baza Au scazut chiar si cerintele de sistem la 1 Gb RAM si 16 GB stocare.,

[MonkY]

M-a mancat pe undeva (desi am intalnit tone de probleme la clientii unde am mai instalat) sa trec si eu pe Windows 8.1. Concluzia dupa o saptamana de chin: Cel mai prost OS de la Vista incoace. Nici Vista nu mi se bloca in halul asta. Tone de erori in Event Viewer... explorer.exe crashes and stuff. Nu e in stare nici macar OneDrive (SkyDrive-ul) sa-l incarce... da erori desi e propria aplicatie, ffs...

Are niste freeze-uri in momente bizare (de exp. incerc sa deschid o amarata de poza, sau sa salvez ceva din Office). Imprimanta mi-a luat o zi sa o fac sa mearga (a trebuit sa curat orice urma de drivere puse de Microsoft by default).

Driverele la zi, update-uri la zi, totul instalat pe curat, hardware fara issues. Norocul meu e ca am inca HDD-ul cu Windows 7 (care are 4 ani de cand merge) si acolo nu exista asemenea issues. Si nu vorbim de vreo varianta luata de pe net, ci de un Windows 8.1 Professional oficial, cu licenta.

Skydrive (care de fapt e deja OneDrive, dar ei au uitat asta) errors:

Faulting application name: skydrive.exe, version: 6.3.9600.17055, time stamp: 0x53291a62
Faulting module name: unknown, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Exception code: 0x00000000
Fault offset: 0x0000000000000000
Faulting process ID: 0x1320
Faulting application start time: 0x01cf67ee488aedbe
Faulting application path: C:\Windows\System32\skydrive.exe
Faulting module path: unknown
Report ID: 885d0444-d3e1-11e3-be81-10bf48d6af3d
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

Explorer.exe crashes:

Faulting application name: Explorer.EXE, version: 6.3.9600.17039, time stamp: 0x53156588
Faulting module name: twinui.dll, version: 6.3.9600.17041, time stamp: 0x53181631
Exception code: 0x80270249
Fault offset: 0x000000000026e0a7
Faulting process ID: 0xe60
Faulting application start time: 0x01cf67ee42672f0d
Faulting application path: C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\twinui.dll
Report ID: 81704c4e-d3e1-11e3-be81-10bf48d6af3d
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

Zune errors? WTF, mai exista Zune?

errorCode 0x800706ba
updateTitle Microsoft.ZuneMusic
updateGuid {C22F180D-1C22-4318-B177-8427E697E671}
updateRevisionNumber 1
serviceGuid {117CAB2D-82B1-4B5A-A08C-4D62DBEE7782}

Distributed COM issues:

The application-specific permission settings do not grant Local Activation permission for the COM Server application with CLSID
{D63B10C5-BB46-4990-A94F-E40B9D520160}
and APPID
{9CA88EE3-ACB7-47C8-AFC4-AB702511C276}
to the user NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM SID (S-1-5-18) from address LocalHost (Using LRPC) running in the application container Unavailable SID (Unavailable). This security permission can be modified using the Component Services administrative tool.

Intel Gigabit issues?!? Never happened to me on Windows 7:

The description for Event ID 27 from source e1iexpress cannot be found. Either the component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the local computer.

If the event originated on another computer, the display information had to be saved with the event.

The following information was included with the event:

Intel(R) 82574L Gigabit Network Connection

the message resource is present but the message is not found in the string/message table

Application hung (explorer.exe - yay!)

The program explorer.exe version 6.3.9600.17039 stopped interacting with Windows and was closed. To see if more information about the problem is available, check the problem history in the Action Center control panel.
Process ID: 13b4
Start Time: 01cf67ee47c76946
Termination Time: 0
Application Path: C:\WINDOWS\explorer.exe
Report Id: 129ebaff-d3e3-11e3-be81-10bf48d6af3d
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

E penibil... super penibil! Si acelea sunt doar cateva selectii din lista de erori. Pe altele le-am rezolvat... la unele gasesti pe Google doar discutii pe TechNet care se termina prin "poate se va rezolva la urmatorul update". Sau poate, cine stie... nu-i convine hardware-ul care pe Win7 merge PERFECT!

Nu mai aduc aminte de lipsa Start-ului (a trebuit sa cumpar aplicatie de 2.99$ ca sa am StartIsBack - dar care oricum nu are toate facilitatile vechiului Start), de faptul ca in Windows 8.1 s-au decis sa renunte la WEI (Windows Experience Index), sau ca au spus adio la Windows Gadgets (si acolo a trebuit sa pun un third party). Sau mici issues de genul "RDP pe Windows 8.1 nu stie sa se logheze decat cu domain in fata" (ceea ce e aberant). Sau aberatii gen "Ne-am decis noi ca de-acum inainte My Computer sa se numeasca This PC". WTH Microsoft?

P.S. Btw, la un sfc scan n-a gasit nimic in neregula. How cool is that?

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.3.9600]
(c) 2013 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>sfc /scannow

Beginning system scan. This process will take some time.

Beginning verification phase of system scan.
Verification 100% complete.

Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations.

[MonkY]

Desi poate aici nu e vina celor de la Microsoft... uitati-va si voi ce a insemnat upgrade-ul pentru Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty Professional. Aveti 2 screenshots - concluzia o trageti singuri.

[Mihail]

Cea mai intalnita problema de mine, pe unele computere: imprimanta din retea isi da automat offline din cand in cand. Dar doar pe anumite calculatoare imi face asta. Am verificat drivere, reinstalat OS, nimic. Aveti vreo solutie?

[MonkY]

Pizzi: ai incercat sa dezactivezi modul sleep la imprimanta? Unele au o astfel de setare... ma gandesc ca ies din sleep incorect sau mai bine zis nu ies din sleep

Intre timp, am avut o mica discutie in contradictoriu cu cei de la Microsoft Romania. Le-am cerut ca pentru kit-urile de Windows 8 Professional sa ne dea si noua un link sau o modalitate de unde sa putem lua direct Windows 8.1 Professional, ca sa nu mai stam sa instalam Win8 dupa care updates, dupa care Win8.1 update, dupa care alte updates (pe un i7 cu conexiune gigabit, toata distractia dureaza cel putin 10 ore). Raspunsul Microsoft: "nu se poate!". Am incercat diverse metode gasite de pe web... dar din pacate asa este: serialul de Win8 nu se pupa la kit-ul de Win8.1. Inca un thumb down!

P.S. Eu gata, am renuntat la Win8... too many problems. Am pus Win7 si absolut TOATE problemele pe care le aveam pe Win8 au disparut. Is it magic?

[Mihail]

Am rezolvat dezactivand modul "Turn on fast startup" din Control Panel, Power Settings.
Eu am direct 8.1 Professional. Nu m-am complicat cu Win8 si apoi update.

[MonkY]

As vrea si eu sa nu ma mai complic cu Win8 si dupa update. Din pacate, Microsoft vrea ca pt. asta sa mai cumpar inca odata Windows 8.1 Pro, ceea ce mi se pare aberant - e acelasi Windows, doar cu un Service Pack peste... Asa ca duca-se. Raman cu Win7 si probabil mai next OS va fi MacOS sau Linux (si-asa nu ma joc pe PC).

[dtancu]

MonkY, ia uite mai jos exemplu de OS adevarat, man.

[Mihail]

WOW, serios?