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    Senior Member AndyZ's Avatar
    Pai si in FIFA anul trecut, daca scoteai toate assist-urile la pase puteai sa trimiti mingea unde voiai tu si cat de tare voiai. Doar ca lumea nu se obosea sa umble in setari, daca ar fi facut-o n-ar mai fi existat nici ping-pong passing.

    Sistemul asta "Pro Passing" limiteaza assist-urile, atat, e un fel de "uite ce aveam noi inainte dar voi nu stiati, asa ca ii dam un nume cool ca sa credeti ca am facut cine stie ce minunatie"..

    Cat despre copiat, e adevarat ca FIFA a renuntat la sagetile alea la faze fixe si a bagat sistemul care exista in PES. Dar si PES a copiat destul la capitolul gameplay, driblingurile cu stick-ul, miscare la 360 de grade etc..
    La un an dupa ce FIFA a venit cu "Be a Pro", PES a "inventat" "Become a Legend".

    Parca vad la anul in PES, "Become a Legendary Goalkeeper".

  2. #62 SP
    Junior Member Hublea's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by AndyZ View Post
    Cat despre copiat, e adevarat ca FIFA a renuntat la sagetile alea la faze fixe si a bagat sistemul care exista in PES. Dar si PES a copiat destul la capitolul gameplay, driblingurile cu stick-ul, miscare la 360 de grade etc..
    La un an dupa ce FIFA a venit cu "Be a Pro", PES a "inventat" "Become a Legend".

    Parca vad la anul in PES, "Become a Legendary Goalkeeper".
    Adevarat

    foarte tare asta: "Parca vad la anul in PES, "Become a Legendary Goalkeeper".

  3. #63 SP
    Senior Member erik95's Avatar
    Mda... niciun FPS nu seamana cu altul, niciun RPG nu seamana cu altul. Cred ca se intelege ce vreau sa spun, se copiaza unii pe altii pentru a face 2 jocuri mai bune, iar asta nu poate decat sa ne bucure. Sincer chiar as vrea ca Konami sa copieze atmosfera din Fifa, in PES atmosfera e ca la un meci de liga a 2a... in opinia mea este departe sa fie un joc viu, cu o asa atmosfera.

  4. #64 SP
    Banned Venom's Avatar
    Mdea, nici eu nu-mi aduc bine aminte ce, cand si cum au copiat unii de la altii, dar imi aduc aminte ca sistemul de pase 1-2 a fost furat de la PES. Tineti minte (astia mai batrani) ca 1-2ul se facea cu tasta "space"? FIFA a copiat de la PES faza cu tinut apasat butonul, pasa, demarcare si eliberat la momentul oportun. Cornerele si loviturile libere tot de la PES vin. Mai sunt, dar nu cred ca e asa de important aspectul asta. Au furat ei si de la "Actua Soccer", si de la "UEFA STRIKER" si de multi altii. Asta inseamna evolutie.

  5. #65 SP
    Senior Member AndyZ's Avatar
    Eu n-am zis-o ca un lucru rau. Copiatul/inspiratul de la alte jocuri e inevitabil. Ce-ar fi insemnat sa avem bullet time doar in Max Payne sau alte chestii misto in cate un singur joc? Ar refuza careva sa joace ceva doar pentru ca ideea respectiva a aparut prima data in alta parte? Si-asa.. la cate zeci de mii de jocuri au aparut pana acum, e greu sa mai vii cu vreo idee sau vreun concept nemaivazut.

  6. #66 SP
    Senior Member AndRewqp's Avatar
    PES 2011 demo impressions - E4G | Everything For Gamers |
    In my opinion no matter what Konami does in the coming weeks before PES 2011 gets released on the 8th of October they will not be able to match EA’s Fifa 11, even though Fifa has stepped sideways whilst PES tries to push forward the two soccer sims are still leagues apart from each other.

  7. #67 SP
    Junior Member eduardxwx's Avatar
    pentru cei care se intreaba ce sa intamplat cu clipu meu , raspuns : sau cam enervat aia de la fifa si youtube a luat masuri . uni nu suporta adevaru

  8. #68 SP
    Senior Member AndyZ's Avatar
    Sunt sigur ca aia de la EA Sports sunt prea ocupati sa-si numere gramezile de bani incasate din milioanele de vanzari ale lui FIFA, ca sa mai aiba timp si de cenzurarea filmuletelor facute de fani..

    P.S.: cratima .. "-" .. use it

  9. #69 SP
    Member ramusg's Avatar
    Tocmai ce am terminat de jucat o gramada de partide in Fifa Wc, mi-am dat seama de ce este atat de adulat jocul asta si atat de urat Pes-ul: e f usor.
    Toata lumea foloseste ping pong passing sistem, pasele scurte si lungi perfecte cu L1, deposedarile perfecte cu L2, teleportarile fantastice cand folosesti L2 si jucatorul tau poate deposeda sau atinge mingia chiar daca tie iti pare imposibil , distanta dintre el si mingie fiind prea mare. EA a mers la extrem cu stilul asta arcade unde majoritatea lucrurilor ce definesc jocul de fotbal sunt scriptate si unde AI-ul face aproape toata treaba pt tine tu doar apasand niste butoane ca robotul.
    Sa nu-mi spuneti ca pot sa joc pe manual pt ca on line nimeni nu o face si nu prea e ok sa pierzi ca un ratat cand stii ca la Pes te descurci f bine si acolo assistul este apropiat de controlul manual, destul ca joc doar cu x, o, triunghi si RS -FS, adica controlul simplu fara butoanele magice.

    Eu joc ambele jocuri dar acum mi-am dat seama de ce atata admiratie pt FIFA si pareri proaste pt Pes, la PES ai nevoie de tehnica, skills, de viziune a jocului, sincronizare in pase si sut, multe altele, e mult mai greu , trebuie sa cunosti si sa stii sa joci cu un pad, la FIFA e f usor, simplu, de aceea toata lumea sare in sus cand cineva critica Fifa, pt ca toata lumea stie ca fara ce-i ofera jocul asta ca ajutor in gameplay devine frustrant din lipsa de pricepere, majoritatea jucatorilor de fifa sunt nepriceputi.

    Acum cand Fifa a inceput sa copieze controlul din Pes si jocul necesita o tehnica superioara o sa-i vad eu pe jucatorii minune de ping pong passis sau tragatorii la poarta cu R1 cum o sa joace. Bravo EA, in sfarsit faci un lucru bun.

    Am jucat cu o gramada de idioti ce nu alearga un metru cu mingia la picior sau sa faca un dribling in viteza, apasa in disperare pe X de fiecare data cand ajunge mingia la urmatorul jucator, sunt penibili acesti jucatori de FIFA ce-si lauda jocul facut pt retardati.

    Sa nu mai aud cat de tare e Fifa si cat de tare e gameplay-ul, lauda asta nu o aduce decat un jucator de duzina care cu ajutorul butoanelor magice sau a ping pong passing sistem are o revelatie si descopera cat de bun jucator e el si normal ca pt un noob ca el acest joc e cel mai tare din lume. Asa e lumea asta facuta, daca ne da cineva mura-n gura e super, daca trebuie sa ne folosim creierul si abilitatile e de cacao, nu pt toti dar pt o majoritate covarsitoare. Sper ca ati inteles. Abia astept versiunea finala de Fifa 11 pt a vedea daca EA se tine de cuvant si scapa in sfarsit de arcade-ul asta nenorocit. Multumesc pt rabdare.

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    Junior Member StevieG25's Avatar
    neverming , edited .

  11. #71 SP
    Senior Member cosminbad's Avatar
    sincer , in FIFA , nici nu am impresia ca joc. E atata harababura incat nu prea am ce face cu mingea la picior. PEs-ul mi se pare mai deschis. Cred ca PES 2011 o sa merite. O intrebare: Pes-ul nu are comentariu in timpul jocului? si la penalty-uri, camera sta tot timpul in modul tele sau wide ?

  12. #72 SP
    Member Nonelito's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by cosminbad View Post
    sincer , in FIFA , nici nu am impresia ca joc. E atata harababura incat nu prea am ce face cu mingea la picior. PEs-ul mi se pare mai deschis. Cred ca PES 2011 o sa merite. O intrebare: Pes-ul nu are comentariu in timpul jocului? si la penalty-uri, camera sta tot timpul in modul tele sau wide ?
    Evident ca are comentariu ..In demo lipseste din motive de design, spatiu whatever Konami. Din pacate cred ca acea camera de la penalty-uri va fi la fel si in jocul full.

  13. #73 SP
    Junior Member robbyy10's Avatar
    in pes11 voi putea sa-mi creez o echipa si sa joc in master league cu ea? ca anul trecut? si sa ii editez tricourile,emblema etc.?

  14. #74 SP
    Senior Member cosminbad's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by robbyy10 View Post
    in pes11 voi putea sa-mi creez o echipa si sa joc in master league cu ea? ca anul trecut? si sa ii editez tricourile,emblema etc.?
    Pai asa zic:
    A fact sheet for Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 has been released - detailing the footy sim's key features.

    The biggest addition this year are the various incarnations of total control with everything from dribbling to through-balls, giving PES 2011 a much more sophisticated feel.

    Here's the list of features:

    Total Control: PES Productions has enhanced the 360-degree passing ratio, offering unprecedented levels of control over every pass, shot, throw-in, through ball and lofted through balls.

    Users can pass the ball into space, and move their play with total freedom. Players must precisely weight their passes and second-guess the runs of their team-mates and exploit their movement. Players even can apply pressure on opponents to force them off the ball.

    Shot & Stamina Gauge: In addition to the generic power gauge, the Shot & Stamina meter details the player's exact level of fitness. Constantly sprinting will have an adverse affect on performance and statistics.

    New Defender AI: Defenders now hold their positions naturally, instead of chasing balls that enter their area and work to close down the attacker to force mistakes.

    Animation and Player Physics: PES Productions has totally reworked every element of in-game animation. These additions will become clear before even kick-off, with the players enjoying fluid, natural movements, with more realistic acceleration and inertia than ever before.

    The physicality between players is also improved, which was a priority requested in PES forums. Jostling and blocking now looks stunning, while there is a larger variety of convincing tackling styles. Ambient animation also adds immensely to the in-game atmosphere, as players behave realistically when off the ball, and walk and run with a variety of individual styles.

    Speed of Play: The new level of control means that PES 2011 enjoys a more varied pace of play, which depends on the situation at hand.

    The game will burst into life as counter-attacks come into play, but players can dictate the pace via slow build up or exploiting available space to surge forward. It is harder to make long runs from midfield, and successful play will depend on making quick passes to create space.

    Aesthetics: PES 2010 showcased the best likenesses in a football game, and PES 2011 ups the ante further.

    Facial animation has been enhanced, but the key advances are over 1000 all-new animations which have been recreated from the ground up using over 100 hours of motion captured footage yielding more organic runs, turns, throw-ins, tackles, and interaction.

    Tactical and Strategy: The PES Productions team has implemented an all new 'Drag and Drop' mechanism that can be used in every aspect of team management.

    These settings are also animated to promote better understanding of the plays that have been altered.

    Feint settings: PES has always offered a wide range of subtle skills, feints and turns, but PES 2011 allows users to map their favourite move sequences to the right stick, making them more accessible than ever before.

    Master League Online: PES 2011 will mark the online debut for its much-loved Master League element, with players bidding against each other for the world's best players, and attempting to build a squad that can compete with the best against online peers all over the globe.
    sursa News: PES 2011 fact sheet released - ComputerAndVideoGames.com

  15. #75 SP
    Junior Member osuletz's Avatar
    Eu nu gasesc Demo pentru PES 2011 pe Store US si stiam ca trebuie sa fie. Pe UK este? Eu nu am cont de UK.

  16. #76 SP
    Member blondutzu's Avatar
    da este pe UK..pe US nu m-am uitat

  17. #77 SP
    x2z
    Senior Member x2z's Avatar
    pentru toti cei care spun ca PES este realist pentru ca ofera goluri de la distanta le comunic ca ieri am primit un gol din intoarcere de la 40 de metri direct in vinclu. autor, Ibrahimovic. daca voi ati mai intalnit asa ceva atunci e clar imi cumpar pes anul asta!

  18. #78 SP
    Member ramusg's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by x2z View Post
    pentru toti cei care spun ca PES este realist pentru ca ofera goluri de la distanta le comunic ca ieri am primit un gol din intoarcere de la 40 de metri direct in vinclu. autor, Ibrahimovic. daca voi ati mai intalnit asa ceva atunci e clar imi cumpar pes anul asta!
    Am mai intalnit si in 9 si 10, singurul joc de fotbal in care poti avea satisfactia unei faze de gol sau de atac muncita si apropiata de realitate e PES-ul, ultima faza ce m-a dat pe spate in Pes 10, am mai mentionat asta, e un sut a lul Ballack de la aproximativ 45 de metri in transversala, mingia revine in joc undeva usor lateral dreapta in marginea careului mare si Podolski imi reia cu un sut din voleu direct in vinclu, am ramas cu gura cascata de ce am reusit sa fac.

  19. #79 SP
    x2z
    Senior Member x2z's Avatar
    ma refeream daca in realitate exista asa ceva (vezi sutul lui ibrahimovic) atunci da, pes e un joc realist.

  20. #80 SP
    Member ramusg's Avatar
    Pai, sa-ti amintesc de golurile unui cetatean numit Gh. Hagi, Zidane si multi jucatori de fotbal in lumea fotbalistica reala, suficient? Hagi a avut o executie asemanatoare cu ce ai descris tu la Galata intr-un meci de cupa, golul e pe DVD-ul cu cariera lui fotbalistica.

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