Nu este nici una nici alta, este un mit prostesc. A nu se confunda cu faptul ca unele jocuri sunt optimizate mai bine pt. placile ATI altele pt Nvidia, dar si lucrul asta se rezolva ulterior prin update-uri de drivere.
Nu este nici una nici alta, este un mit prostesc. A nu se confunda cu faptul ca unele jocuri sunt optimizate mai bine pt. placile ATI altele pt Nvidia, dar si lucrul asta se rezolva ulterior prin update-uri de drivere.
Cred ca mai degraba Mo se refera la faptul ca AMD = ATI si ca, din cunostintele mele, atat pe PS4 cat si pe X1 va fi un APU din seria A de la AMD, de unde "optimizarea".
Asta este altceva, desi din postul lui se intelege ce am spus anterior si partial confirmat de el.Originally Posted by GreyhounD
Cand vine vorba de PC-uri, eu stiu ca o combinatie de APU AMD si placa Video ATI duce la un spor de performanta fata de orice alta combinatie CPU + Video ATI. Dar deja o dam in discutii PC hardware care nu cred ca-si au rostul aici.
pana una alta joc FUSE pe 360 , bai , daca din saracia aia au scos grafica aia ,cursiva, ce drac or sa mai scoata din astea noi ?! chiar nu vad ce pot scoate mai mult , sunt tare curios , sa speram ca de bine
Guys, trebuie sa ii intelegem si pe cei care fac diverse teste de plictiseala... si inteleg cateodata si discutiile noastre duse la extrem (gen unde mama dracu' mi-a disparut RAM-ul din consola). In mod normal chestiile astea nici n-ar avea ce cauta pe aria de console... insa, se vede ca se simtea lipsa unei noi generatii, era nevoie de "fresh blood". De vreo 7-8 ani n-am mai avut asemenea discutii, iar acum 7-8 ani eram niste "paria", remmember?
Prin urmare, lasati oamenii sa faca teste, evaluari, presupuneri... Hell yeah, chiar ma gandesc ca dupa lansare sa pornim un adevarat "razboi" X1 vs PS4. La naiba cu regulile, macar pe subiectul asta (please don't ban me, masters!). Freedom of speech... let the console games rise once more!
P.S. I'm not drunk... i'm just happy to see you (La Multi Ani CG, btw!)
Bineinteles ca merg mai bine, doar e acelasi producator, iar optimizarea este mult mai precisa.
Te inseli, este doar un mit vechi si stupid, de mult timp (parca inceputul lui 2000) se spunea ca ATI merge mai bine cu AMD si Nvidia cu Intel, nu este decat o prostie.
Lasand deoparte mitul din 2000, cand erau bunicii tineri si cand AMD era AMD si ATI era ATI, procesoarele APU se bucura de o optimizare pe care nu o sa o vezi la intel. Iar daca nu ma insel, un APU si un GPU Ati separat, aduc un plus de performanta de vreo 30% (un fel de Sli). Cel putin pe hartie.
Si vorbind totusi de niste procesoare A custom care se afla in consolele urmatoare, zic si eu ca mitul asta stupid si prostesc si vechi (ma refer la ala din 2011-2012), nu prea mai este mit.
Lasand la o parte mistourile ieftine eu zic sa te mai documentezi, exact din acea perioada vine acest mit si a ramas pana in prezent.
Eu m-am referit strict pe partea de PC nu pot sa vorbesc despre console pt. ca nici nu au aparut, vedem atunci.
APU sunt recomandate pt. HTPC-uri si pt. un gaming ocazional.
APU merg in tandem doar cu 6570 ... 6670 care sunt placi slabe - nu sunt pt. gaming la rezolutii 1080P.
AMD Radeon Dual Graphics
A6 APU + HD7850? - Radeon - Graphics & Displays
Din cate stiu noile console vor putea rula 1080P nativ, deci vom vorbi despre cu totul alte procesoare despre care nu prea stim mare lucru. Un lucru despre care nu vorbeste nimeni este sistemul de operare de pe acele console. care optimizat la sange pt. o singura configurate poate face minuni (ma refer la performanta) un exemplu concret sunt produsele Apple.
Cred ca ar trebui mutata discutia pe un alt topic.
Nu era nici un fel de misto. Stiu mitul la care faci referire. Eram si eu tanar pe atunci. Dar cum am scris si mai sus, pe atunci erau doua firme diferite, in ziua de astazi treaba sta putin altfel intre amd si ati.
PS - Exact. Ajungem iar la optimizare. Nu mai mutam. Ne-a dat startul poiuyt cu video ala si ne oprim cu video pus de tine.
OK, atunci imi cer scuze am inteles eu gresit.
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John Carmack vorbeste despre performantele Xbox One vs PS4, cu o concluzie proprie: "They are very close". Video si detalii aici: John Carmack on PS4 vs. Xbox One Specs: They're 'Very Close'.
Daaaa, foarte multe am aflat din acest video. NOT! Nimic nou din pacate
Pai nu trebuia sa afli nimic nou e doar o reamintire la tot ce stiai pus cap coada.
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FAQ: What Are the Differences Between the PS4 and Xbox One? - Push Square
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Carmack: Sony Has Made Large Strides with the PS4 - Push Square
John Carmack, id Software’s veteran co-founder, has admitted that he’s pretty impressed with the PlayStation 4. Speaking as part of another enormous three-hour keynote at QuakeCon, the Wolfenstein 3D programmer praised the impending console – and suggested that the Japanese giant has done a stellar job of learning from the mistakes that it made with the PlayStation 3.
"It's no secret that in the previous generation I favoured the Xbox 360 over the PS3," he said. "While there are certain things that Sony did well for a game developer, the 360 was a nicer platform to work on. [But] Sony has made large strides. Its development tools came out of the gate much, much better than they ever have. [And] it’s made some somewhat-more gamer-focused decisions in its strategies and architectures."
However, the veteran was unwilling to pick a side in the battle between the PS4 and the Xbox One. “Everyone would like me to come out with some A over B comparison about the two platforms, and, to be completely honest, I haven't done really rigorous benchmarking on them, so even if I didn't have NDA protection, I couldn't give you a really completely honest answer,” he explained. “But they are very close, they're both very good.”
While Carmack was generally optimistic regarding the two new consoles, though, he was keen to point out one facet of the next generation that's already grinding his gears. “It appals me that we still have people targeting 30 frames-per-second,” he sighed. “It was hard to hit 60 frames-per-second on the current generation. There are scars in the code base and on the developers that let us make it to the quality and performance level that we did. But we've got a lot more power now [...] and I think that it would just be much better for people to concentrate on smoother gameplay experiences.”
Carmack has always been a big proponent of 60 frames-per-second, famously pushing the PS3 to its absolute limits in order to maintain the refresh rate in flawed first-person shooter RAGE. Much to the developer's frustration, though, many of the PS4’s launch titles currently run at 30Hz, including DriveClub, Killzone: Shadow Fall, and Knack. Evolution Studios has said that it’s targeting a faster framerate for the former, but it’s not making any promises.
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PS4 deals - the best PS4 pre-order bundles -- PlayStation Universe
NORTH AMERICA
GameStop – Knack Bundle
Price: $519.97 (free shipping)
GameStop was always going to be at the forefront of PS4 bundles, and you could easily do a lot worse than this ideal starter pack. For one, you not only get a copy of SCE Japan Studio’s upcoming PS4-exclusive platformer, but two DualShock 4 pads – the perfect springboard for next-gen multiplayer gaming. Friends not included.
GameStop - Killzone: Shadow Fall Bundle
Price: $459.98 (free shipping)
Another GameStop pack, this one will get you started with the basics: a shiny new PS4, assorted cables, one DualShock 4 pad and a copy of Guerrilla Games’ scrumptious-looking Killzone: Shadow Fall. Yes, it’s the barebones deal, but you get a PS4 and one of the console’s most anticipated launch titles--what more could you want?
Amazon – Battlefield 4 Launch Day Bundle
Price: $499.90 (free shipping)
Retail giant Amazon is offering much the same as GameStop in terms of PS4 + one game deals, but this one is particularly juicy: a PS4 bundle featuring Battlefield 4 and PlayStation Plus. With news that you’ll now need to subscribe to Sony’s admittedly excellent premium PlayStation Plus service to take PS4 online, this bundle is the perfect companion to get you started--and what better way to experience next-gen online gaming than with a copy of BF4? Needless to say, this is suited to newcomers who haven’t got PS Plus or have yet to join the PlayStation family. Keep in mind you can also get the same deal with Killzone instead of BF4.
Walmart – PS4 Console Solution Bundle w/ DualShock 4 and game
Price: From $576.96 (free shipping)
This is a pretty meaty bundle, but those of you who have the cash to splash out on Sony’s next-generation console, you can’t get much better than this. Not only do you get the standard PS4 and DualShock 4 combo, but you also receive an additional pad, PlayStation camera and a game of your choice. So, you’re equipped for single-player and multiplayer gaming, and with a game tailored to your choice.
Walmart – PS4 Console Starter Bundle
Price: From $459.00 (free shipping)
This is one of those handy pick ‘n mix bundles where you have the basic PS4 console plus a choice of an accessory, extra controller or a game of your choice. So, you can either get the console with the camera, another DualShock 4 pad or any title. Maybe you fancy some first-party action with Knack or Killzone? Or perhaps you feel like kicking off your next-generation gaming experience with Watch Dogs or Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag? It’s entirely to you.
U.K.
GameSeek – PS4 Standard
Price: £339.75 (inc. VAT), plus £6.99 for delivery
The standard day-one PS4 package, this will get you the vanilla edition of Sony’s next-generation console--the hardware and a DualShock 4. The price is probably the best you’re going to get for the standalone console, as even with the delivery cost it’s still a few quid cheaper than leading competitors zavvi and shopto.
Very – PS4 with one game (varies)
Price: £399.00
Typically known for flaunting the gorgeous Holly Willoughby in their adverts on TV, Very is offering several PS4 bundles with a choice of one game, ranging from Killzone: Shadow Fall, Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag to FIFA 14. No PS Plus available sadly, but those of you who want to start gaming on day one without having to fork out for a title separately can’t go wrong here. Finding a PS4 w/game bundle in the U.K. is actually harder than it looks – GAME is the only major chain offering such deals, and they have yet to confirm how much they’ll cost.
Very – PS4 and two games
Price: £449.00
Very comes up trumps again with this PS4 bundle featuring two games, namely FIFA 14 and Call of Duty: Ghosts. This is a pretty sweet deal considering the likes of Littlewoods are offering a PS4 and a single game for £50 more, so you’re saving yourself quite a lot here.
Rumor: Sony to bundle PS4 & PS Vita together later this year -- PlayStation Universe
PlayStation 4 and PlayStation Vita will be bundled together later this year, reports Inside Gaming Daily.
According to the article, which cites a ‘well-placed anonymous source,’ the pack is due out at the end of 2013 following the launch of Sony’s next-generation platform, and will retail for roughly $500/~£325.
PS4 and PS Vita share a close relationship, with the handheld able to stream titles for its console cousin via Remote Play. Packaging them both together seems like a logical step, although Sony has remained tight-lipped on any possible plans regarding a console/handheld bundle.
Sony will launch the PS4 this November for $399/£349, undercutting Xbox One by $100/£80. PS Vita hit stores in Japan in December 2011, and was released in the west last February. Sales were initially strong but quickly tapered off, though hopefully that will change on the back of several upcoming releases including Killzone: Mercenary and Tearaway.
eu tot astept data oficiala a lansarii..ce dracu le-o fi asa de greu sa o zica ?!
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