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  1. #1101 SP
    Member biagyydog's Avatar
    Au aparut si preturile pentru nebuniile astea?

  2. #1102 SP
    Admin MonkY's Avatar
    Da, sunt deja pe site-ul Apple. In principiu ies cu aprox. 200$ mai ieftin fata de aceeași configurație cu Intel.

  3. #1103 SP
    Why so serious ? razvanrazy's Avatar
    Review pentru Macbook Pro cu M1 - pretty impressive


  4. #1104 SP
    Admin MonkY's Avatar
    LOL. It's already getting crazy! https://www.macrumors.com/2020/11/18...software-on-m1

    ---------- Post added 20-11-2020 at 02:27 ----------


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    Manager paul's Avatar
    Apple today introduced an all-new iMac featuring a much more compact and remarkably thin design, enabled by the M1 chip. The new iMac offers powerful performance in a design that’s just 11.5 millimeters thin, with a striking side profile that practically disappears. Available in an array of vibrant colors to match a user’s personal style and brighten any space, iMac features a 24-inch 4.5K Retina display with 11.3 million pixels, 500 nits of brightness, and over a billion colors, delivering a brilliant and vivid viewing experience.

    The new iMac also includes a 1080p FaceTime HD camera, studio-quality mics, and a six-speaker sound system — the best camera and audio ever in a Mac. Also, Touch ID comes to iMac for the first time, making it easier than ever to securely log in, make purchases with Apple Pay, or switch user profiles with the touch of a finger. Combining the power and performance of M1 and macOS Big Sur, apps launch with blazing speed, everyday tasks feel incredibly fast and fluid, and demanding workloads like editing 4K video and working with huge images are faster than ever. The new iMac joins the incredible family of Mac models powered by M1, including MacBook Air, 13-inch MacBook Pro, and Mac mini, marking another step forward in Apple’s transition to Apple silicon. iMac is the most personal, powerful, capable, and fun it has ever been, and customers can order it beginning Friday, April 30. iMac will be available in the second half of May.

    “M1 is a gigantic leap forward for the Mac, and today we’re excited to introduce the all-new iMac, the first Mac designed around the breakthrough M1 chip,” said Greg Joswiak, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing. “With its striking design in seven stunning colors, its immersive 4.5K Retina display, the best camera, mics, and speakers ever in a Mac, and Touch ID, combined with the amazing performance of M1 and the power of macOS Big Sur, the new iMac takes everything people love about iMac to an entirely new level.”
    iMac features all-new design in vibrant colors, M1 chip, and 4.5K Retina display - Apple

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  7. #1107 SP
    Manager paul's Avatar
    Apple’s new iMac brings M1 goodness to the desktop:

  8. #1108 SP
    Member Antiohh's Avatar
    Exista ceva dezavantaje cu cipurile M1 in ceea ce priveste modul in care ruleaza aplicatiile? Stiam ca asta ar fi problema cu procesoarele ARM, dar nu am gasit nimic cu adevarat concludent pe internet in acest sens. Pana acum am vazut numai de bine cand vine vorba de ele, dar asta nu imi ridica decat intrebarea: de ce nu fac/reusesc si altii sa scoata procesoare de acest tip mai bune?

    Desi as vrea sa stau cat mai departe de ecosistemul lor costisitor pe termen lung si prefer windowsul (de 15 ani numai pe el il folosesc. si as prefera sa ramana asa daca nu ofera macOS-ul ceva care chiar sa merite deranjul de a-l invata), AirBook-urile cu procesoarele astea noi par chiar ieftine pentru ce stiu sa faca. Sa nu mai zic ca daca imi tine bateria mult si nu scoate sunete sunt super incantat. Iar eu nici nu rulez nu stiu ce programe complexe. Dar nu vreau sa fiu pus nici in ipostaza in care incerc sa rulez un program de statistica de la facultate si sa nu mi-l deschida.

  9. #1109 SP
    Manager paul's Avatar
    macOS Monterey:
    Monterey adds new ways to connect with friends and family, work smarter across devices, and stay focused

    Getting More Done with Mac

    All-New Ways to Stay Connected

    New Ways to Work Across Apple Devices

    Additional New Features of macOS Monterey

    1. iCloud+ plans: 50GB with one HomeKit Secure Video camera ($0.99 per month), 200GB with up to five HomeKit Secure Video cameras ($2.99 per month), and 2TB with an unlimited number of HomeKit Secure Video cameras ($9.99 per month). Current iCloud storage subscribers will be upgraded to iCloud+ automatically this fall.
    macOS Monterey introduces powerful features to get more done - Apple
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  10. #1110 SP
    Manager paul's Avatar
    M1 Pro si M1 Max:
    Quote Originally Posted by Apple
    The CPU in M1 Pro and M1 Max delivers up to 70 percent faster CPU performance than M1, so tasks like compiling projects in Xcode are faster than ever.

    The GPU in M1 Pro is up to 2x faster than M1, while M1 Max is up to an astonishing 4x faster than M1, allowing pro users to fly through the most demanding graphics workflows.

    M1 Pro and M1 Max introduce a system-on-a-chip (SoC) architecture to pro systems for the first time. The chips feature fast unified memory, industry-leading performance per watt, and incredible power efficiency, along with increased memory bandwidth and capacity.

    M1 Pro offers up to 200GB/s of memory bandwidth with support for up to 32GB of unified memory. M1 Max delivers up to 400GB/s of memory bandwidth — 2x that of M1 Pro and nearly 6x that of M1 — and support for up to 64GB of unified memory.

    And while the latest PC laptops top out at 16GB of graphics memory, having this huge amount of memory enables graphics-intensive workflows previously unimaginable on a notebook. The efficient architecture of M1 Pro and M1 Max means they deliver the same level of performance whether MacBook Pro is plugged in or using the battery.

    M1 Pro and M1 Max also feature enhanced media engines with dedicated ProRes accelerators specifically for pro video processing. M1 Pro and M1 Max are by far the most powerful chips Apple has ever built.
    1. Testing conducted by Apple in August and September 2021 using preproduction 16-inch MacBook Pro systems with Apple M1 Max, 10-core CPU, 32-core GPU, and 64GB of RAM, and preproduction 16-inch MacBook Pro systems with Apple M1 Pro, 10-core CPU, 16-core GPU, and 32GB of RAM. Performance measured using select industry‑standard benchmarks. 8-core PC laptop chip performance data from testing MSI GP66 Leopard (11UG-018). Performance tests are conducted using specific computer systems and reflect the approximate performance of MacBook Pro.

    2. Testing conducted by Apple in August and September 2021 using preproduction 16-inch MacBook Pro systems with Apple M1 Max, 10-core CPU, 32-core GPU, and 64GB of RAM, and preproduction 16-inch MacBook Pro systems with Apple M1 Pro, 10-core CPU, 16-core GPU, and 32GB of RAM. Performance measured using select industry‑standard benchmarks. Discrete PC laptop graphics performance data from testing Lenovo Legion 5 (82JW0012US). High-end discrete PC laptop graphics performance data from testing MSI GE76 Raider (11UH-053). PC compact pro laptop performance data from testing Razer Blade 15 Advanced (RZ09-0409CE53-R3U1). Performance tests are conducted using specific computer systems and reflect the approximate performance of MacBook Pro.
    Introducing M1 Pro and M1 Max: the most powerful chips Apple has ever built - Apple
    MacBook Pro:
    Quote Originally Posted by Apple
    Apple today unveiled the completely reimagined MacBook Pro powered by the all-new M1 Pro and M1 Max — the first pro chips designed for the Mac. Available in 14- and 16-inch models, MacBook Pro delivers groundbreaking processing, graphics, and machine learning (ML) performance whether running on battery or plugged in, as well as amazing battery life — enabling workflows previously unimaginable on a notebook.

    The new MacBook Pro also features a stunning Liquid Retina XDR display, a wide range of ports for advanced connectivity, a 1080p FaceTime HD camera, and the best audio system in a notebook. Combined with macOS Monterey, which is engineered down to its core to take full advantage of M1 Pro and M1 Max, the user experience is simply unrivaled. Shattering the limits of what a notebook can do, MacBook Pro is designed for developers, photographers, filmmakers, 3D artists, scientists, music producers, and anyone who wants the world’s best notebook.

    The new MacBook Pro joins the 13-inch MacBook Pro with M1 to form the strongest lineup of pro notebooks ever. Customers can order the new 14- and 16-inch MacBook Pro models today, and they will be available beginning Tuesday, October 26.
    Apple unveils game-changing MacBook Pro - Apple
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  11. #1111 SP
    Admin MonkY's Avatar
    Iar au rupt gura târgului. Acum și cu notch pe laptop!

  12. #1112 SP
    Why so serious ? razvanrazy's Avatar
    Mah sunt misto, n-am ce zice. Au readus porturile importante, au marit diagonala de ecran, au schimbat tastatura. Ba chiar au readus magsafe-ul care este gamechanger Foarte ok overall.

    Nu inteleg de ce au renuntat la touchbar. Eu il super folosesc in Final Cut si Photoshop, chiar si cand vad filme sau schimb tab-urile in Safari si emoticoane in social medial + OS pentru OK sau Cancel fff des. Si cu siguranta aveau loc de el, chiar si cu F-urile ca butoane fizice.
    Si clar, o bara unde poti customiza ce sa apara este mult mai buna decat...niste butoane fizice, limitate ca functii...

    Notch-u ala nu-l inteleg, fara face ID. Nu cred ca o sa deranjeze in vreun fel sau altul experienta de utilizare, mai ales ca OS-ul va fi facut in asa fel incat sa-l ignore/acopere mereu, dar este uratel dpdv estetic.

    In rest, numai de bine. Bani sa ai sa-l iei. Doar ca in echiparea de baza, cu cei 16GB shared, mi se pare efectiv inutilizabil. Am eu 10-12GB RAM ocupati constant, fara FCPX sau Photoshop deschise. Daca mai deschid si alea, merg in 15GB fara cine stie ce intensive tasks. Deci nu mai ramane nimic pentru GPU.
    Asa ca fara un mic upgrade de 32GB memory, eventual 1TB SSD, mi se pare greu de utilizat in altceva decat browsing. Iar asta inseamna + 800$, deci ajungi in ~3000$.

  13. #1113 SP
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    Man, asta cu 10-12GB RAM ocupati constant, stii bine ca nu mai e relevanta de ani buni. Adica, in afara de Windows (si chiar si aici am observat schimbari de mentalitate), pe cam toate OS-urile se merge pe ideea ca "UNUSED RAM IS BAD RAM". Cu alte cuvinte, se face cache in draci, se tin ultimele aplicatiile inchise in RAM, in ideea ca poate le vei refolosi, se tin ultimele fisiere deschise in RAM, in ideea ca ai nevoie de ele, se incarca in background cel mai des folosite aplicatii and so on.

    Uite iti dau un exemplu cu serverul nostru pe care avem acum 256GB RAM. Eu as putea sa-l tin chiar si pe 4GB RAM, si sa mai ramana si ceva RAM free. Asa ca intra in actiune chestii gen memcache, php cache, sql cache, and so on... Si uite asa sari de 200GB instant. As putea sa ma plang ca am incarcat RAM-ul aproape tot timpul? As putea, dar as minti. Cu ce m-ar ajuta daca as vedea ca folosesc tot timpul doar 5% din el?

    Hai sa vedem cu OS-urile de la Apple. Uite am pornit acum iPad Pro-ul meu cu M1, si chiar daca nu am nimic deschis, imi arata 500MB free RAM. Dar deschid ceva, si sunt sanse sa vad 1GB free RAM. Avand drive-uri din ce in ce mai rapide (NVMe rulez), memoria a devenit atat de dinamica incat a te uita la cat FREE RAM ai, e useless. Ba mai mult, nu stiu daca ai vazut, pe Android OS deja se lucreaza cu 12GB RAM + 4GB RAM(drive?). Ei zic ca ai 16...

    Bine, daca ai Intel, intr-adevar pe x86 nu e atat de bine optimizata partea asta (de aceea si vedem diferenta pe Windows-uri, unde majoritatea PC-urilor sunt totusi x86). Dar pentru ARM & Co. eu iti garantez ca in viitorul apropiat nu va mai avea niciun sens sa te uiti la cat RAM ai ocupat si cat nu. Pana si browser-ul din iOS parca are pre-emptive loading. Adica incarca in avans ceva ce posibil nici sa nu deschizi vreodata.

    Revenind la noile Mac-uri, eu zic ca exagerezi cu "daca nu iei cu 32GB RAM si 1TB SSD nu poti sa-l utilizezi in altceva decat browsing". Am prieteni care lucreaza chiar si pe M1 cu 8GB RAM (desi mai toti cei care chiar fac productie au mers pe varianta cu 16GB RAM, si chiar zic ca e "de vis"). Uite eu de exp. aveam de gand sa astept un MacBook cu M1x (sau ce va iesi), dar cu 16GB RAM. Pe care sa lucrez. Acela ar fi fost M1 Pro. Dar acum ce naiba sa fac, daca Apple in nici 10 minute a spalat pe jos cu M1, M1 Pro... si a ridicat stacheta cu M1 Max? Si ai spune ca daca tot as vrea un M1 Max, daca 16 sunt putini, de ce nu as merge pe 32? Well, nope. Eu daca voi strange bani pentru M1 Max, voi alege varianta cu 16GB RAM. E prea mare diferenta de pret, si la un SSD care se duce la 7GB/s, eu zic ca ma descurc.

    Sunt expensive? Eu zic ca da. Dar in acest moment, nu au rival. Si daca te uiti la cine le cumpara (in special M1 Max), vorbim despre profesionisti, care cel mai probabil banii pe un MacBook si-l scot in maxim o saptamana. Unii chiar mai rapid... Pentru toti ceilalti, M1 inca e belea, mai ales ca ii mai scade un pic pretul.

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    Senior Member Mayhem's Avatar
    La o viteza de transfer a memoriei de pana la 200 GB/s la M1 pro si 400Gb/s la M1 Max s-ar putea, corectati-ma daca gresesc, sa nu sesizezi nicio diferenta intre 16 si 32 Gb ram daca lucrezi in single applications, de exemplu ai doar photoshop sau doar final cut pro deschis. Cumva are mai mult sens penrru un SOC ca M1, pro, max sa ai toata memoria ocupata cu aplicatiile pe care le-ai deschis, gen ai 4 aplicatii deschise, soc-u poate manageria mai bine carui aplicatie ii va fi alocata cata memorie, cata sa “dea” la gpu, decat sa mai stea sa zica stai ca mai ramane niste ram liber etc. Il eli ereaza in functie de prioritate chiar daca e la 100% usage.

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    Why so serious ? razvanrazy's Avatar
    Personal nu am niciodata doar Photoshop sau doar Final Cut Pro X deschise. Absolut mereu cand editez, sunt ambele + alte programe + cele normale de browsing (chrome cu 1000 de tab-uri, poate si safari, mail si restul aplicatiilor de comunicare).

    Parerea mea ramane ca 16GB sunt absolut insuficienti in cazul asta, daca vrei sa faci mai mult de web browsing.

  16. #1116 SP
    Admin MonkY's Avatar
    Mayhem: te mai ajută la încă ceva, acel extra RAM (pe lângă cache and stuff). Și anume, te ajută la "less trashing" pe SSD (NVMe sau ce are). Cu cât scrii mai puțin și ții mai mult în RAM, cu atât mai bine. Dacă îți permiți, go for 32. La naiba, chiar și 64. Garantez că în afară de niște bani extra, nu pierzi nimic.

  17. #1117 SP
    Manager paul's Avatar
    Recenzie The Verge:

    16 ore pe baterie:
    All that performance is excellent, but here’s what’s really impressive: the 16-inch MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro ran for 16 hours on its battery during continuous use, making it the longest-lasting laptop we’ve ever tested.

    To test battery life, we just use the machines during the work day, without plugging in, and without letting the display go to sleep. So that 16 hours involved jumping between a dozen-ish Chrome tabs, using apps like Slack and Spotify, and often running Zoom calls and YouTube videos over that. At one point we were worried we’d fall asleep before the MacBook Pro did.
    Apple MacBook Pro 14 and 16 (2021) review: return to form - The Verge
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  18. #1118 SP
    Why so serious ? razvanrazy's Avatar
    Are cineva mouse-ul Logitech MX Master 3 legat fara dongle la un Mac (any mac)? Legat cu dongle cred ca merge, dar cum dongle este pe USB A, iar eu pe mac am doar USB C, nu am cum sa leg fara un dongle mare cu care nu vreau sa stau mereu.

    Am niste probleme ciudate rau cu el si desi initial i-am dat de cap, acum nu mai reusesc sa-l fac sa mearga corect si ma dispera

    Ideea este urmatoarea - mouse-ul este vazut normal, prin BT de catre OS si merge fara probleme. Dar nu pot sa folosesc orizontal scroll si cele 2 butoane aditionale.
    Daca vreau sa folosesc si astea + shortcut-uri individuale per programe, trebuie sa customizez totul din aplicatia lor - Logi Options.

    Si aici intervine problema mea.

    De cand l-am luat, m-am chinuit cateva ore sa-l fac sa-l vada in acea aplicatie. Am cautat si facut efectiv tot ce am gasit pe internet (exemplu) si cumva, solutia desi nu a venit de acolo, a fost stupid de simpla - in loc sa-l las sa se conecteze pe "1" ca si conexiune (eu putand sa-l conectez la 3 device-uri simulatan si sa fac switch intre ele cu un buton), am ales sa se conecteze pe "2", astfel ca a mers atunci si de atunci pana in urma cu cateva zile.

    Din ce am vazut pe youtube, in procesul de instalare, el ar trebui sa-si ceara acces in cateva sectiuni unde trebuie sa bag parola de admin, dar la mine nu s-a intamplat asta, ori de cate ori l-am instalat si reinstalat.
    Dar am reusit sa adaug eu aplicatiile in Settings - Security and Privacy - Privacy, in toate sectiune unde era nevoie, iar acum am observat ca totul este inca acolo, corect.

    In urma cu cateva zile, am dat un restart (da, nu dau restart decat odata la cateva saptamani, de regula cand instalez ceva care-mi cere restart) si dupa restart am observat ca nu-mi mai merg shortcut-urile de pe cele 2 butoane, dar nici scroll-ul orizontal.
    Astfel ca am intrat in programul lor "Logi Options" si...iar nu mi-l vede.

    Am incercat din nou toate posibilitatile de pe net si ce am mai tinut minte, chiar si schimbarea conexiunii, dar tot nu vrea.

    Aveti vreo alta solutie (care sa nu implice reinstall de OS cu back-up la tot ce am pe SSD + toate programele folosite reinstalate) sau aveti cum sa verificati voi daca la voi merge fara probleme?

  19. #1119 SP
    Admin MonkY's Avatar
    Strange. Intrebare: tu ai MX Master 3 varianta pt. Mac, sau cea de PC? Also, ai verificat daca daemonul acela de la Logitech are drepturi? Extra: verifica daca exista firmware updates pt. mouse, si desigur, sa fie ultima versiune a softului... Din pacate eu nu am cum sa verific, ca nu am un Mac la indemana.

  20. #1120 SP
    Why so serious ? razvanrazy's Avatar
    Am versiunea generala, nu cea de Mac. Singura chestie extra la cea generala e ca vine si cu dongle, dar in rest e acelasi produs, cu acelasi soft - m-am tot documentat inainte sa iau. Iar asa il tin legat in 2 locuri, vs 1 singur daca era doar ala fara dongle.

    Da, are si Daemonul respectiv drepturi peste tot.

    Firmware updates nu am - cel putin cand l-am luat si l-am facut sa mearga, am facut un update si dupa aia nu am mai vazut sa fie ceva nou.
    La fel si Logi Options, pe care l-am reinstalat ieri si la fel.
    Dar altfel nu am cum sa verific daca mouse-u are update la zi, decat din software-ul lor.

    Mi se pare ciudat, pt ca mai am un soft de la ei, G-hub sau ceva de genu, unde am legat G305 si nici acolo nu-l vede.

    Toate astea in timp ce el este legat la Mac prin BT si in settings - BT il vad si-l pot folosi normal, doar ca este default si nu pot beneficia de extra butoanele fizice.

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