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  1. #161 SP
    Senior Member SirAndrew's Avatar
    dupa 9 ore de butonat ieri varianta de pc nu am dat peste nici un bug.

    nici un program de calculator nu este infailibil si 100% perfect...
    deci nu se aplica numai la NFS.

    tin minte inainte de lansarea lui gt5 cate filmulete stupide aparusera cu buguri din joc... si in cateva zeci de ore de jucat nu am intalniti nici macar unu...

  2. #162 SP
    Member Dante's Avatar
    o sa fie si un dlc cu ferrari? parca la shift 1 a fost , sper sa nu ma insel

  3. #163 SP
    Junior Member pescarus10's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Dante View Post
    o sa fie si un dlc cu ferrari? parca la shift 1 a fost , sper sa nu ma insel
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    An Exotic Racing Pack was also released for the PS3 which features cars like the McLaren MP4-12C, the BMW M1 (E21) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:BMW_M1_1.jpg" class="image" title="BMW M1"><img alt="BMW M1" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/BMW_M1_1.jpg/250px-BMW_M1_1.jpg"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/9/9e/BMW_M1_1.jpg/250px-BMW_M1_1.jpg, the Gumpert Apollo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Gumpert_Apollo_3.jpg" class="image"><img alt="Gumpert Apollo 3.jpg" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/Gumpert_Apollo_3.jpg/250px-Gumpert_Apollo_3.jpg"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/9/9e/Gumpert_Apollo_3.jpg/250px-Gumpert_Apollo_3.jpg and the Honda NSX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Honda_NSX_red.jpg" class="image"><img alt="Honda NSX red.jpg" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/Honda_NSX_red.jpg/250px-Honda_NSX_red.jpg"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/0/09/Honda_NSX_red.jpg/250px-Honda_NSX_red.jpg". (Need for Speed: Shift - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Need_for_Speed_Shift.jpg" class="image"><img alt="Need for Speed Shift.jpg" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/00/Need_for_Speed_Shift.jpg"@@AMEPARAM@@en/0/00/Need_for_Speed_Shift.jpg)
    Deci, DLC-ul a fost valabil doar pentru XBOX. Vom vedea ce va fi.

  4. #164 SP
    Member radu_robert98r's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SirAndrew View Post
    dupa 9 ore de butonat ieri varianta de pc nu am dat peste nici un bug.

    nici un program de calculator nu este infailibil si 100% perfect...
    deci nu se aplica numai la NFS.

    tin minte inainte de lansarea lui gt5 cate filmulete stupide aparusera cu buguri din joc... si in cateva zeci de ore de jucat nu am intalniti nici macar unu...
    se remediada cu update

  5. #165 SP
    Senior Member cosminbad's Avatar
    comparatie cu gt5. imi place cum a scris baiatul pe gtplanet

    necrodeemus New Member Online Now!
    OK I know their are lots of posts here and I could tack onto those. But there are no real comparisons vs GT5. So I wanted to give me thoughts for those who have been thinking about purchasing but on the fence. I have played Gt5 since December and a big fan of the game and the series in general. I have played NFS before, but I did not play the original shift nor have I played forza. These are personal opinions nor am I pushing for one product over another.

    Firstly, my set up. PS3 120GB. 32in Plasma. HDMi input. Controller - Logitech DFGT.

    Game was purchased from Walmart for $59.99 + tax, was the LE (so much for pre order only?!) I had not intended to buy this game, but the feedback on the new Nascar game was terrible so I jumped for this seeing it was released.

    Settings : Damage - real, driving elite settings with abs. Everything is off. Ai - Medium


    Interface and menu's.

    Anyone who has been playing GT5 will know the interface and menus' are slow, very slow, and poorly mapped for access to other sections. Shift 2's menu is fast, quick and you are able to access many sections without waiting, in the garage, the car loading will load in the background as you flip through, not a big deal but would be nice for a quick visual representation of the car (even if it was lower detail and loaded a higher version if you stay on it for 2 seconds) Menus' for tuning and options for settings are very clearly marked and displayed. There is no confusing with what you are doing ever. In most sections there are basic settings and more advanced settings, this is nice for casual and hard core players. Loading times for both games are fairly similar. However beyond the initial load, shift is faster and less loading is required. This experience is very welcoming after the frustration of GT5. Its nice to be able to race more than load or get to a section.


    Graphics.

    Lets ignore the fact of the standard cars in GT5 and focus on the Premium. Car graphics are obviously a lot more sharper in GT5 over shift, on the PS3. I have read that PC and Xbox versions are better than the PS3. Tracks also look cleaner in Gt5. Gt5 Graphics are far superior in every sense over Shift, however looking better, is not always better. Shift has done some very clever things with the graphics at its disposal. The immersion in the tracks seems more real, I feel enclosed, I feel speed. I do not always feel these things in GT5. People have stated the tracks are widened in Shift, but they feel more real than Gt5, do they look as real ? No. As far as I can tell, I never driven on a track. Sun blinds you, the crowd seem like they are moving and interacting with you, taking pictures, waving flags, instead of looking like stick figures. I am a avid hood/bumper cam driver, always have been. However in shift I have been using the helmet cam, this feature really immerses me in the graphics, with my sight becoming blurry over bumps, in crashes. I am racing at 100, 150, 200 Kmph, not watching a high definition movie. Gt5 is mouth dropping to look at sometimes if you keep your eyes on the car and the tarmac, but that’s it. Shift has poorer eye candy quality but with everything they have done with effects, I actually feel like I’m a racing instead of watching a movie. (brands hatch is fapfapfap)


    Gameplay (single player)
    The game play in Gt5 is good, A spec has plenty of races (B spec isn’t a game), special events give a spice of something different. However, after a few races, it all begins to very samey, it feels like a grind to an extent, tracks and races seem to merge into the same thing repeated but with having to change the car u choose. I have only played shift for 4 hours so I cannot give a great deal of feedback, but I have not felt this way yet, it feels varied, so far the lap #'s in shift feel like they have been perfectly set to not feel like its a chore and a test of concentration over enjoyment. Various styles of races/challenges mix it up for shift too. The track selection seems perfect too, never feels like you are running the same track over and over again.

    Physics.
    One thing that bugs me about the Gt5 community is how they worship physics of the GT series. The physics are really good, don’t get me wrong. However I feel sometimes they good beyond the realism and feel like I get punished for being aggressive. Yes you can tune cars in Gt5 to be more aggressive, but if you play without aids, you can be severely punished for what seems like something that shouldn’t happen. Even stock cars seem to think they are on ice sometimes. It sounds like I’m bashing GT5, but I am not, I just don’t think every car in the world needs to be tuned to allow you to throw it round a course. Shift is less sim like physics, and I feel like I can accerlerate out of a corner, push it to the limits, I wont be punished all the time, and the game/cars warn me when I am pushing to hard, the feedback although not as good as powerful as GT5, seems to give more information. It also requires some tuning on the car, however unlike Gt5 you can save different settings on a different cars and save them to individual tracks as well, which is a welcome relief. A little bit of work has to be done to make it feel a bit more realistic, especially with a wheel, however I suspect a patch will be coming to improve handling, overall though it feels good. As seems to be the trend recently in most racing games, they have completely messed up the lotus elise, how these game developers in the world think one of the best handling car/brands ever drive like these I do not know. When you get behind a beast of a Porchse, you certainly feel the tail slide all over the place, the physics to me at least, seem more diverse between the cars.

    A few other mentions, the car choice in Shift is very good, obviously some brands are missing, Ferrari for example. Personally I have never been a fan of the rear wheeled monster that is porchse, but I am sure thats a big tick in the box for yes for people who want to drive those. Whilst the number of vehicles is paltry compared GT5, 140+ vs 1000+, however it is definitely a case of quality over quantity, and being a EA game there will be DLC. And at the end of the day, you can only drive one car at a time. The tuning section is awesome compared to Gt5 series, correct names for options instead of stage 1 2 3, however their seems to be a reported bug with the tuning section that prevents you purchasing multiple things in the same section, however this will be patched I am sure.
    Oh.. and the big thing for me. DAMAGE!!!!! A much derided aspect of GT5, this is how it should be done, it could do with a little tweaking, however it is very very impressive, i have real damage on (not just visual), race over if u do 200 into the wall in this game. Dirt on screens, crumpled side panels, broken lights, cracked windscreens, lost bumpers.. its amazing. I know this isn’t damage strictly, but I love the fact if I spin out on a gravel track, and start driving back on the track, i still hear those loose stones bouncing around in my undercarriage whilst they work themselves out
    . Anyone who is planning to release a racer with damage need to use this as a base. It truly is the best damage in a race game I have come across that isn’t a $1000's+ simulator.

    Overall, Shift 2 is an amazing product, it is different from GT5, some aspect are more arcade than sim, however you will have fun. Which is why I play games.

    The best (and probably most stupid) way I can describe these products side by side is they are both highly paid doctors in the same job.
    GT5 went to the best schools, best groomed man of the year GQ style face, head hunted by all the big hospitals and is always listened too. He is the face of your company, the guy you go have meetings with.

    NFS:s2 went to public school system, bummed around Africa in his gap year, lived his life, has a beard and a lil scruffy, this guy is ya best friend and you invite him to all ya parties.

    Very happy with both games, problems on both sides, but the gaming industry and pushing out material quicker and quicker so issues will always happen now. Both excellent bases for products if they continue to support update. Both could be classics with a bit of work.

  6. #166 SP
    Senior Member SirAndrew's Avatar
    In buna traditie EA pe PSN Uk sunt deja doua dlc-uri:

    1. unlock all cars = 7.99 lire (daca asta se poate numi dlc )
    2. fast five = 5.49 lire - adauga veyron, pagani huayra, gumpert apollo, mclaren f1 si porsche carrera gt.

  7. #167 SP
    Member 573ph4n's Avatar
    Daca ma intrebi pe mine japca .Primu dlc are un pret EXAGERAT.
    Al 2-lea..ei bine si-au provoat jocul cu masinile alea, mai ales cu pagani si acum ce sa inteleg ca nu sunt in joc ?Tre sa cumpar dlc ca sa joc cu ele ?

  8. #168 SP
    Senior Member SirAndrew's Avatar
    mi se pare ca e pagani zonda in jocul default.

  9. #169 SP
    Vires Intus eagle-eye's Avatar
    Ce? Cele mai bune masini sunt doar in dlc? Sa le bag cuie-n ceafa, masinile alea reprezinta 50% din motivele pentru care vreau jocul.

  10. #170 SP
    Senior Member SirAndrew's Avatar
    hmm, si la forza 3 am luat dlcuri cu masini dar acolo erau cu zecile intr-un dlc.
    astia ma mir ca nu le dau cate una

    5 ron bucata

  11. #171 SP
    Senior Member cosminbad's Avatar
    Pai nu sunt in joc alea 5 sau sunt 2 pachete de deblocare. Full unlock si alea 5?

  12. #172 SP
    Senior Member istrategie's Avatar
    Cum pot sa scot porcaria aia de camera miscatoare? E imposibil de jucat cu ea. Oricum e o gluma proasta pe langa GT5, dar am zis sa il incerc si eu. Cu totul la maxim pe PC si arata oribil...

  13. #173 SP
    Senior Member Diesel's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SirAndrew View Post
    In buna traditie EA pe PSN Uk sunt deja doua dlc-uri:

    1. unlock all cars = 7.99 lire (daca asta se poate numi dlc )
    2. fast five = 5.49 lire - adauga veyron, pagani huayra, gumpert apollo, mclaren f1 si porsche carrera gt.
    La fast five m-am interesat si nu le adauga, doar ti le deblocheaza din prima. Daca ai rabdare, le poti debloca si singur, important e ca le ai in lista fara sa mai platesti extra.

    Concluzia e ca publisherii si developerii devin tot mai lacomi. Se plang ca e criza si la ei, dar in paralel fac tot posibilul sa-si saboteze francizele cu decizii care e normal sa dezamageasca si sa supere gamerii—first day DLC, online pass si alte asemenea lucruri. Si asta mai ales in cazul EA, specializati pe francize care sunt reciclate anual. Pana la urma, ei doar cer, nu ne baga mana in buzunar, dar asta nu scuza preturile alea absolut nesimtite la DLC; jocul costa 40 de lire si deblocarea masinilor ma costa aproape un sfert din pretul total

  14. #174 SP
    Senior Member SirAndrew's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    La fast five m-am interesat si nu le adauga, doar ti le deblocheaza din prima. Daca ai rabdare, le poti debloca si singur, important e ca le ai in lista fara sa mai platesti extra.
    superb.
    sunt curios daca vine cu toata pleiada de rahaturi EA... adica online pass, manual lipsa... etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by istrategie View Post
    Cum pot sa scot porcaria aia de camera miscatoare? E imposibil de jucat cu ea. Oricum e o gluma proasta pe langa GT5, dar am zis sa il incerc si eu. Cu totul la maxim pe PC si arata oribil...
    daca nu ai volan bun jocul dupa parerea mea nu se poate juca din taste, este imposibil, sensivitatea este mult prea mica pentru a lua curbele cum trebuie, mai ales la traseele din orase...
    restul comentariului tau e doar remarca rau voitoare

    *"camera miscatoare" se schimba apasand pe R... dar puteai sa afla si singur.

  15. #175 SP
    Junior Member pescarus10's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SirAndrew View Post
    In buna traditie EA pe PSN Uk sunt deja doua dlc-uri:

    1. unlock all cars = 7.99 lire (daca asta se poate numi dlc )
    2. fast five = 5.49 lire - adauga veyron, pagani huayra, gumpert apollo, mclaren f1 si porsche carrera gt.
    Nu mai stiu din ce sa scoata bani. Oare merita sa cumperi astfel de "dlc-uri", in loc sa joci, sa progresezi putin in joc si sa deblochezi masinile singur?
    Online pass mi se pare o alta magarie a celor de la EA si nu are nicio justificare.

  16. #176 SP
    Why so serious ? razvanrazy's Avatar
    Nu inteleg de ce se discuta aici, despre versiunea de PC a jocului !!!

    Referitor la joc, camera "miscatoare" este cel mai bun lucru din tot jocul. Controlul la drift-uri este pur si simplu oribil chiar si cu volan, iar cel mai iritant este ca, chiar si pe cel mai mic nivel de dificultate si cu toate assist-urile pe ON, daca ai pierdut o pozitie, nu mai poti urca la loc. AI-ul este incredibil de agresiv (intra in tine, te arunca inafara traseului) iar fizica masinilor cam lasa de dorit, cel putin in curbe.

    Trebuia ca, pe Easy si cu toate assist-urile pe ON, sa castig detasat ORICE cursa, oricum as fi condus.

    Stiu foarte bine cu ce se mananca jocurile cu masini. Am ros pe toate partile Forza 3 si GT 3 si 4 (din pacate pe 5 inca nu am pus mana) si multe alte jocuri cu masini din ultimii "multi" ani, asa ca nu ma luati cu faze de genu "esti praf, nu esti in stare sa conduci".

  17. #177 SP
    Senior Member eXist's Avatar
    Best Distribution, in parteneriat cu ESL ROmania si cu sprijinul Diverta, anunta lansarea celui mai nou joc din seria Need for Speed - Shift 2 Unleashed.

    Evenimentul are loc vineri, pe 1 aprilie, in cadrul magazinului Diverta din Mall Plaza, Bd. Timisoara nr. 26, si incepe la ora 15.00.

    In cadrul lansarii se va desfasura un concurs cu premii pe PC-uri oferite de Gigabyte. Inscrierile se fac printr-un mesaj trimis la adresa de e-mail [email protected], care sa contina urmatoarele detalii: nume, prenume, varsta, numar de telefon, adresa de resedinta.

    Regulamentul concursului poate fi gasit pe www.gameshop.ro si www.esl.eu/ro.
    Ne vedem maine acolo.

  18. #178 SP
    Senior Member Diesel's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by razvanrazy View Post
    Controlul la drift-uri este pur si simplu oribil chiar si cu volan.
    Come on, nu veni cu vesti rele fix inainte sa-mi ajunga jocul

  19. #179 SP
    Senior Member SirAndrew's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by razvanrazy View Post
    Nu inteleg de ce se discuta aici, despre versiunea de PC a jocului !!!

    Referitor la joc, camera "miscatoare" este cel mai bun lucru din tot jocul. Controlul la drift-uri este pur si simplu oribil chiar si cu volan, iar cel mai iritant este ca, chiar si pe cel mai mic nivel de dificultate si cu toate assist-urile pe ON, daca ai pierdut o pozitie, nu mai poti urca la loc. AI-ul este incredibil de agresiv (intra in tine, te arunca inafara traseului) iar fizica masinilor cam lasa de dorit, cel putin in curbe.

    Trebuia ca, pe Easy si cu toate assist-urile pe ON, sa castig detasat ORICE cursa, oricum as fi condus.

    Stiu foarte bine cu ce se mananca jocurile cu masini. Am ros pe toate partile Forza 3 si GT 3 si 4 (din pacate pe 5 inca nu am pus mana) si multe alte jocuri cu masini din ultimii "multi" ani, asa ca nu ma luati cu faze de genu "esti praf, nu esti in stare sa conduci".
    ai dreptate... sunt profund dezamagit de joc.
    butonand in ultimele zile versiunea de pc am facut greseala sa presupun ca si pe console o sa fie la fel.
    nu ma refer la grafica, care este absolut oribila pe ps3 ci la control, care e cel mai important.

    parca nu e acelasi joc. nu inteleg ce naiba au vrut sa faca... nu inteleg cum au putut sa-l scoata atata de diferit fata de pc.
    au vrut sa simuleze o pierdere a aderentei la roti cand iei o curba... a iesit un total fail, pentru ca e exact efectul ca si cand ai dezactiva ffb-ul si l-ai activa la loc in mijlocul curbei... rezultand o miscare de-ti smulge volanul din maini.
    ma intreb ce naiba au facut aia de au testat jocul .. cum naiba poate sa fie asta realismul atat de trambitat in filmuletele unde ne arata piloti care lauda acest control pe ps3.
    au facut-o rau de oaie...

    am incercat diferite setari postate pe alte forumuri de profil insa fara prea mari imbunatatiri.
    daca nu scoteau cum trebuie varianta de pc mai ziceam, insa asa nu au dat decat dovada de nesimtire.

  20. #180 SP
    Banned darkpaul13's Avatar
    e chiar asa mare diferenta legat de control si grafica ?
    si eu care vroiam sa renunt la GT 5 ptr Shift 2

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