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    Teo
    Senior Member Teo's Avatar
    Joystick:

    By now you might be wondering what kind of impact all of this sharing and installation is going to have on your hard drive. After a day of futzing with the PS4, I accumulated around 40 minutes of gameplay footage and nearly 40 screenshots, which totaled just under 17MB.

    O fi vrut sa scrie 17GB? 17gb pt 40 de minute?

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    FIFA Fan gvingi76's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Teo View Post
    Nu ma mai atrage partea de MP de ceva timp insa am o intrebare. De ce doriti atat de mult sa fie PS STORE in Romania?
    Daca faceti un cont de UK sau US, nu e tot una? se poate juca MP si se pot cumpara jocuri.
    Se poate juca MP si fara sa ai Store la majoritatea jocurilor. Dar vrem Store in Romania:
    Pentru ca vrem sa putem cumpara din store cu cardul de Romania, fara a cauta oferte de carduri valorice.
    Pentru ca vrem sa putem folosi contul PayPal de Romania pentru a incarca walletul din Store.
    Pentru ca vrem sa putem cumpara add-on-uri direct din joc, fara sa schimbam contul.
    Pentru ca nu poti folosi un avatar luat din storeul UK pe contul de RO.


    Daca as sti sigur ca vom avea Store in Romania nu as mai prelungi PS+ pe UK. Mai am pana in Iulie 2014. Cred ca pana atunci se va afla ceva sigur... Si atunci voi trece la PS+ pe RO Si ma va prinde PS4 cu abonament PS+ de Romania.

  3. #4243 SP
    Senior Member Se7en Fury's Avatar
    Păi şi ce facem cu jocurile PS Plus din listă, e de ***, trebuiau să facă asta la lansare, nu înţeleg de ce le ia atâta timp să pună in aplicare.

  4. #4244 SP
    Senior Member iPaul's Avatar
    Iti poti pastra contul vechi si iti poti creea unul nou pe RO.

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    Senior Member OlBlueEyes's Avatar
    Se poate schimba tara la cont adica de pe UK sa trec pe RO insa sa-mi ramana trofeele?

  6. #4246 SP
    Member ViBy's Avatar
    Cei de la Gamespot deja testeaza PlayStation 4 live pe twitch.tv GameSpot - Twitch

  7. #4247 SP
    Senior Member Rasko's Avatar
    Auzi la pipiletii aia de la Polygon "lack of games we can recommend". Da Killzone, Resogun, Contrast, Assassin's Creed 4, Battlefield 4, NFS Rivals, Warframe, NBA2K ce plm sunt, balosilor? Cum isi poarta ei razboaiele personale in "presa de specialitate" crezandu-ne pe noi idioti. Ma cuprinde un sentiment crunt de neputinta pe care il mai intalnesc doar cand ii vad pe ilustrii nostri politicieni la TV.

  8. #4248 SP
    Admin MonkY's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by JeNeI View Post
    Inca o intrebare si termin.De preferat sa raspunda cineva mai priceput (MonkY?)

    Merita 7200RPM sau mai bine iau 5400RPM?

    Am auzit ca HDD-urile mai noi nu se incalzesc la fel de mult ca cele vechi.

    1TB 7200RPM este exact la acel pret ca si 1TB 5400RPM.

    Marca este HGST la fel ca HDD-ul original din PS4.
    Pai daca intrebi si in cateva minute deja ai si cumparat... mai are rost sa raspund?
    Normal ca merita 7200 RPM... insa eu unul as opta pentru un SSHD de 5400RPM. Are "best of two worlds". Cache/viteza de acces ca la un SSD, si e rece ca un HDD de 5400RPM. De fapt, eu asta imi voi cumpara (1TB)... Astept sa vad poate face cineva un test, sa vedem daca diferentele sunt mai mari decat la PS3 (asa ar trebui... vorbim de SATA1 pe PS3... presupun ca pe PS4 avem SATA3).

  9. #4249 SP
    Senior Member JeNeI's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by MonkY View Post
    Pai daca intrebi si in cateva minute deja ai si cumparat... mai are rost sa raspund?
    Normal ca merita 7200 RPM... insa eu unul as opta pentru un SSHD de 5400RPM. Are "best of two worlds". Cache/viteza de acces ca la un SSD, si e rece ca un HDD de 5400RPM. De fapt, eu asta imi voi cumpara... Astept sa vad poate face cineva un test, sa vedem daca diferentele sunt mai mari decat la PS3 (asa ar trebui... vorbim de SATA1 pe PS3... presupun ca pe PS4 avem SATA3).
    Am intrebat pe mai multi inainte de a lua decizia,si am facut o mica cercetare.SSHD nu am vrut sa cumpar fiindca este aproape dublu,si 8GB flash nu cred ca va face mare lucru.

    When GTA V came out, I tested how long the mandatory 8GB installation took. 15 minutes on an Xbox 360. All next-gen games need to be installed (and are far more than 8GB), so what can you do with 15 minutes on a PS4? Quite a bit, it turns out.

    I had a brand-new PS4 and 7 games. Naturally, a brand-new PS4 still needs a system update (copied off the game disc), but with that out of the way, the installation times were surprisingly fast. I also found out that once you put a disc in the drive, it automatically starts installing so not a second is wasted waiting for you to click a button.

    I should note that this is part of the PS4's ability to stream games as they download or install, so the installation time isn't how long it takes to install all 36 gigs of Knack, but how long it takes to transfer enough to get the game going. The rest of the data gets copied in the background as long as the disc is in the drive.

    Here are the install times I got for the update and each game:

    1.06 System update: 6:15

    57 seconds to copy the update from the disc
    10 seconds to scroll through the EULA
    4:10 to prepare, reboot and install
    Remaining time is other menus and loading
    Knack: 32 seconds
    Killzone: Shadow Fall: 0:38
    Battlefield 4: 0:42
    Injustice: Gods Among Us: 0:28
    Just Dance 2014: 0:24
    Madden 25: 0:23
    Assassin's Creed 4: 0:13

    In total, from turning on the system, it took 14 minutes and 30 seconds to do a system update and install 7 games. Not too shabby.
    You Can Be Playing A New PS4 Game In 45 Seconds Or Less

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  10. #4250 SP
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeNeI View Post
    Am intrebat pe mai multi inainte de a lua decizia,si am facut o mica cercetare.
    Nu cred ca ai cercetat suficient. Un SSHD in majoritatea testelor se comporta ca si un SSD, care e de n ori mai scump si cu spatiu de n ori mai mic. Problema apare la transfer secvential (cand copiezi sa zicem... un fisier de 50GB), unde se va comporta ca si un HDD de 5400RPM. Insa, sa fim seriosi... pe PS4 nu faci operatiuni de genul acesta.
    Quote Originally Posted by JeNeI View Post
    8GB flash nu cred ca va face mare lucru.
    Adica cu greu poti sa umpli bufferul de 8GB pe un Windows cu i7 pe SATA3 (in operatiuni normale, gen pornit Office, pornit Photoshop, pornit un joc) si crezi ca va reusi PS4-ul sa faca minunea asta?

    Anyway, test facut azi pe un laptop cu i5 (imagine identica facuta pe 3 HDD-uri de 500GB si un SSD de 120GB):

    SSD boot time Win7 Professional 64bits - 7.2s
    SSHD 5400 RPM boot time Win7 Professional 64bits - 9.4s
    HDD 7200 RPM boot time Win7 Professional 64bits - 14.8s
    HDD 5400 RPM boot time Win7 Professional 64bits - 21.1s

    Concluzia o trageti singuri.

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    Senior Member JeNeI's Avatar
    Multumesc ca ai facut acest efort,insa eu nu am vrut/nu vreau sa iau un HDD de $120.Cel de 5400RPM a fost aproape la acelasi pret ca 7200RPM.

    Pe mine sincer nu ma intereseaza viteza de lucru asa de mult,mie imi trebuie spatiu care sa fie de ajuns pentru generatia viitoare (sau actuala).

    Eu ma bucur de achizitia facuta,si de-abia astept sa le primesc.

    @MonkY Inca o data imi cer scuze daca pare ca am facut pas rau,dar $65 mi se pare pret bun pentru HDD.Daca as fi dat $120 pe HDD pentru PS4,as fi luat varianta 1.5TB de 5400RPM.

  13. #4253 SP
    Senior Member iPaul's Avatar
    Interesant
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  14. #4254 SP
    Senior Member JeNeI's Avatar
    Uncharted 4?!?! Eu cred ca da.Kojima cred ca se referea la faptul ca MGSV va primii continut exclusiv pentru PS4.

  15. #4255 SP
    Senior Member iPaul's Avatar
    E de bine,nu?



    L.E

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7400/t...eat-asus-xfx/4

    In a nutshell, TrueAudio is a return to the concept of hardware accelerated audio processing, with AMD leveraging their position to put the necessary hardware on the GPU. Hardware accelerated audio processing in the PC space essentially died with Windows Vista, which moved most of the Windows audio stack into software. Previously the stack was significantly implemented through drivers and as such various elements could be offloaded onto the sound card itself, which in the case of 3D audio meant having the audio card process and transform DirectSound 3D calls as it saw fit. However with Vista hardware processing and hardware access to those APIs was stripped, and combined with a general “good enough” mindset of software audio + Realtek audio codecs, the matter was essentially given up on.

    Now even with the loss of traditional hardware acceleration due to Vista, you can still do advanced 3D audio and other effects in software by having the game engine itself do the work. However this is generally not something that’s done, as game developers are hesitant to allocate valuable CPU time to audio and other effects that are difficult to demonstrate and sell. Further complicating this is of course the current generation consoles, which dedicate a relatively small portion of what are already pretty limited resources to audio processing. As a result the baseline for audio is at times an 8 year old console, or at best a conservative fraction of one CPU core.

  16. #4256 SP
    Senior Member ReNeGaDe124's Avatar
    Uitati aici un demo cu aceasta tehnologie:


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  18. #4258 SP
    Senior Member JeNeI's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by ReNeGaDe124 View Post
    Uitati aici un demo cu aceasta tehnologie:
    Ascuntand cu EarPod de la Apple,chiar credeam ca este real

    Cum sa schimbati HDD-ul si sa reinstalati softul :


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    Member the_fool2k's Avatar
    Tare video-ul. Imi place comparatie de viteza la loading times. Sper sa mai apara astfel de comparatii si la jocuri mari de 40 gb

  20. #4260 SP
    Junior Member albastru's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by gvingi76 View Post
    Se poate juca MP si fara sa ai Store la majoritatea jocurilor. Dar vrem Store in Romania:
    Pentru ca vrem sa putem cumpara din store cu cardul de Romania, fara a cauta oferte de carduri valorice.
    Pentru ca vrem sa putem folosi contul PayPal de Romania pentru a incarca walletul din Store.
    Pentru ca vrem sa putem cumpara add-on-uri direct din joc, fara sa schimbam contul.
    Pentru ca nu poti folosi un avatar luat din storeul UK pe contul de RO.


    Daca as sti sigur ca vom avea Store in Romania nu as mai prelungi PS+ pe UK. Mai am pana in Iulie 2014. Cred ca pana atunci se va afla ceva sigur... Si atunci voi trece la PS+ pe RO Si ma va prinde PS4 cu abonament PS+ de Romania.
    Complet de acord cu ce ai scris,dar daca am compara un cont de RO cu unul de UK presupun ca vom gasi niste dezavantaje la contul romanesc,cum ar fi numarul de jocuri gratuite mult mai putine,preturile la jocuri,carduri sau wallets vor fi mai mari,actualizarile vor fi mai rare.E posibil sa se intample,nu?Tin minte ca am citit o data un comentariu de al tau dintr-un thread vechi despre Store-ul bulgaresc unde ai observat ca preturile de acolo pentru jocuri erau mult mai mari decat in US sau UK Store iar actualizarile se faceau destul de rar.Sper ca la noi nu va fi deloc asa.

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